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Old 07-11-2010, 11:09 PM   #41
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You know, I really thought you already knew the answer to your question. That it was a loaded question. But I'm getting the sense that you're not malicious... well, weren't.
Why the hell would I do that? It was a reasonable and genuine question to ask.


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Old 07-11-2010, 11:43 PM   #42
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I disagree...
I've done everything possible to try and get into peoples head that My project wasn't a failure nor is it now. It's a good project and when I got started doing anything on my car not one person would attempt to help besides advising me to do something else. I wasn't going to put my business out in public forum but I am sort of tired of the little attacks on my car here and there because you person or the other don't agree that it's a good project.
The only reason why I didn't finished the car to date(car is done I just wanted to change some things now that I've gotten wiser) No different than many of the DIY guys on the forum.
BTW,I lost my business(the few million I had in assets), everything I invested over the years two years ago and parked the damn car. Had to file bankruptcy. No money, broke and the history that was always there. I manage to save my house and the woman truck as well. Who the heck was going to help me get the final tune. No one and that's why the car sit for two years. It took me 18 months to go to the mailbox better long anything else. So I wish people would back off me with their little remarks. I am busting my arse trying to put together a few deals just so i can finish the car up and shut some none believers up.
To the OP, You do your project for you. Don't be a follower like many others on here. If that's the system you want, Like many said do your home work, plan things well but more important figure out who is going to tune your car and lock them in. Be sure they are ok tuning a rear mounted turbo system.
Sort out who and what you will use for tuning before you considering buying anything. Also OP feel free to send me a pm if you have any questions or need any help.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:44 AM   #43
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Hi ritos,

I think that guy was responding to my post. There are a handful of non off the shelf kits here on e46fanatics that have started their build recently.

in my personal opinion,
these builds do nothing but get other people to get stuck without tuning. People that are not knowledgeable point to the incompleted threads and claim its possible.


Having all the hardware and labor in place and then to have it not working harmoniously is a situation thats grave for any FI enthusiast. Its something Ive made sure 120% I didnt get stuck in that position with my old 330ci as I went with ESS kit and tune. And we all know even with a off shelf kit, you can run into problems.

Now this covers most general people out there who own e46s. Not the super master tech that has a hoist and lift in their garage with cnc milling machines and ten builds under their belts. This just covers the regular joes and im not saying things are impossible since with money you can standalone and fly in swedish guys at your expense.


The real folks with real people like budgets Ive seen over the years with working/documented kits are the people that have a tuned/parallel standalone/R&D'd kit from a well known company be it AA or HPF ESS Techinque Tuning, technik vf(my office parking neighbor mister chuck's 540 6psi :p), heck even that old arse white evosport car I checked out in my first 2003 meet.

Everyone else, has had their car turn into a brick, one two ..three cars I know of, or was always in this tuning stage. and never lifted off the ground. Except Mliners car finally tuned by gintani via standalone. From talking to mliner its ready with extra goodies.


The only person I was able to sort of try to push this, "its not a good idea to diy a kit on a e46" into was danny meridoes (sp) and im sure he's more than happy with his hks rotrex now.

I do jab at these new builds, join date jul 2010! I want to remind people and help them stay away from long term commitments, long endless years of building/tuning, time away from driving the car, and strange turbo kit give aways and cheap ebay kits that are just nothing but pipe dreams.

I wish you the best ritos, this down time has hit alot of folks out here as well. we all see you as the pioneer of the sts turbo, and thank you for the the many pages and years and baby steps youve shown on to the community.



Lets all write to Jesus Christ and ask for the sharkedit 2013 version and hope our prayers get answered.

edit: lol I read my post again and laughed about the real budget people and hpf in the same paragraph.. lol and some of the words describing non working kits do not apply to your kit..

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Yes i read all of this and it made me laugh too but it's all basically true.
I believe my experience with this type of setup does allow me to better assist anyone who wants to go this route but i always make sure they understand Tuning is going to be a challenge if they do. Also before they consider this route be sure they have a tuning solution. Some work well and some work half arse. LOL We all can't rely on Nick G to tune everything we do so somebody got to try something different and come up with other options. It shouldn't be much longer for that either.

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I think that guy was responding to my post. There are a handful of non off the shelf kits here on e46fanatics that have started their build recently.

in my personal opinion,
these builds do nothing but get other people to get stuck without tuning. People that are not knowledgeable point to the incompleted threads and claim its possible.


Having all the hardware and labor in place and then to have it not working harmoniously is a situation thats grave for any FI enthusiast. Its something Ive made sure 120% I didnt get stuck in that position with my old 330ci as I went with ESS kit and tune. And we all know even with a off shelf kit, you can run into problems.

Now this covers most general people out there who own e46s. Not the super master tech that has a hoist and lift in their garage with cnc milling machines and ten builds under their belts. This just covers the regular joes and im not saying things are impossible since with money you can standalone and fly in swedish guys at your expense.


The real folks with real people like budgets Ive seen over the years with working/documented kits are the people that have a tuned/parallel standalone/R&D'd kit from a well known company be it AA or HPF ESS Techinque Tuning, technik vf(my office parking neighbor mister chuck's 540 6psi :p), heck even that old arse white evosport car I checked out in my first 2003 meet.

Everyone else, has had their car turn into a brick, one two ..three cars I know of, or was always in this tuning stage. and never lifted off the ground. Except Mliners car finally tuned by gintani via standalone. From talking to mliner its ready with extra goodies.


The only person I was able to sort of try to push this, "its not a good idea to diy a kit on a e46" into was danny meridoes (sp) and im sure he's more than happy with his hks rotrex now.

I do jab at these new builds, join date jul 2010! I want to remind people and help them stay away from long term commitments, long endless years of building/tuning, time away from driving the car, and strange turbo kit give aways and cheap ebay kits that are just nothing but pipe dreams.

I wish you the best ritos, this down time has hit alot of folks out here as well. we all see you as the pioneer of the sts turbo, and thank you for the the many pages and years and baby steps youve shown on to the community.



Lets all write to Jesus Christ and ask for the sharkedit 2013 version and hope our prayers get answered.

edit: lol I read my post again and laughed about the real budget people and hpf in the same paragraph.. lol and some of the words describing non working kits do not apply to your kit..

I gotta run and get some pie.
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yes i am looking for one now. Any recommendations is greatly appreciated.
I was thinking Motec(cost too damn much when i will still need the stock dme)
Haltech has a new product that was recommended I look into, I thought a while back HPF was going to offer their EMS to the public but that was a while ago. I wouldn't do a AEM unless it was HPF setup.
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I've got a feeling this project will sit for years...not run right when its done...sit for another few years...etc.

just being realistic
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I've got a feeling this project will sit for years...not run right when its done...sit for another few years...etc.

just being realistic
That's because you don't know me but you are entitled to your own opinion.
The car has been ready for two years now. Since it was sitting due to other reasons I just decided to make some changes when I put it back on the road It will be ready for just about anything.
For most of you who just want 300+rwhp it will suit you well with it's current setup and tuning(well you will need a specific tune for your car as mine want work). But for us guys who are trying to push the limits of a M54B30 you'll just have to stay tuned for updates.
I didn't spend all that money on a built motor, head, diff, clutch, nitrous, cooling system and tuning so i could make 300+rwhp because I've done that with nitrous weekend after weekend by changing the jets.
I am either going to blow the motor to have another one built even better or this motor is going to hold up so i can make 600+rwhp on turbo and once in a while a 150 shot of nitrous just to make a statement. That's what many of you are missing. Hell you can install all my original hardware and get a AEM FIC and make a good 300+rwhp as your daily driver all day. You can also get the New digital Maf and run this car without any tuning except for the MAF tune(I am only speaking of the New Digital/programmable MAF).
Most tunings will never tell you this but it's true and been done already.
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Tuning is everything is the most important thing this should be your main concern, i have everything for a turbo set up an entire kit but without the tuning is like having nothing, find a tuner.... Good Luck your success may inspire others and maybe one day we could put our on turbo kits together like the e36 community
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Tuning is everything is the most important thing this should be your main concern, i have everything for a turbo set up an entire kit but without the tuning is like having nothing, find a tuner.... Good Luck your success may inspire others and maybe one day we could put our on turbo kits together like the e36 community
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that thing if it holds up gonna be a beast!!..and mind will probly blow up! lol..either way its gonna be a rush to stomp down on it when its ready...still need to find a worthy person to tune my little 8lbs boost project before i get started...who's this "Nick G" guy??
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To the OP, You do your project for you. Don't be a follower like many others on here.
Best statement in this whole thread!

OP seriously, from two people that do not like the whole "cookie-cutter" kits idea; if you want to do something that has not been done before, DO YOUR RESEARCH! and if you determine that it is something that you CAN do (eventhough many here will say it wont work because the big companies that charge $2354827 for a kit that wont break 300rwhp have not done it, and you're wasting your time, bla bla [although they may never have attempted something like that to begin with, so where do they get the insight to advice on it? "ranting bandwagon" lol])... just do it! Use it as motivation for you to get it done! Ritos did it on his 530i successfully, I did it on my old Maxima successfully, it's all on the homework you do, and your own motivation!

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Good luck getting a good reliable 'tune; for this turbo project of yours. You should search all the other turbo projects people tried on their e46's before you get your hopes up. And to the guy who said you dont need a tune if your running under 8lbs... i prob wouldnt listen to him let alone let him touch my car or try to tune it for a turbo. Very few people can tune bmw's, and only a select few can tune them good. They need to have the money to spend and most wont shell out the money.. and the ones who can charge alot for it.
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that thing if it holds up gonna be a beast!!..and mind will probly blow up! lol..either way its gonna be a rush to stomp down on it when its ready...still need to find a worthy person to tune my little 8lbs boost project before i get started...who's this "Nick G" guy??
Nick G he owns TT he sells turbo kits for e46s google tenique tuning, he might help you, i know there's a company in Europe that tunes i would send rito a message he could help you with that. oh KEEP AWAY FROM ICS PERFORMANCE these guys are crooks.

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that thing if it holds up gonna be a beast!!..and mind will probly blow up! lol..either way its gonna be a rush to stomp down on it when its ready...still need to find a worthy person to tune my little 8lbs boost project before i get started...who's this "Nick G" guy??
Dude in all honesty, you might as well forget about Nick G tuning your car.
Unless you're a friend of the family or good buddy's forget about it. Everyone knows here NickG will not tune a one off setup and especially a rear mounted one. NickG is a Godist in the BMW tuning or at least one of them. In my opinion there is only about 4 of them. I've begged him for 4 years to tune my car one way or the other. So now i am tired of begging others and going to just install a standalone. If i were you I would plan on a standalone from the start. Haltech offers vano control for about $1900 however you have to make sure your local tuner can tune your car using Haltech. Speaking of that, It probably be best is to find out what your local tuner prefer to tune your car with and go from there.
Another option for a tune is AA(Karl) but I called him a few weeks ago to never get a call back plus I've heard that they want to focus on superchargers and their production product.
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wow that went good..thought atleast one guy would blast me about asking anything to do with a turbo e46! LOL...Some poor soul got blasted for like two whole pages !!!! For posting a question about how could u get 500 hp out of a e46 turbo project!..i actually felt bad for the guy..
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yes i am looking for one now. Any recommendations is greatly appreciated.
I was thinking Motec(cost too damn much when i will still need the stock dme)
Haltech has a new product that was recommended I look into, I thought a while back HPF was going to offer their EMS to the public but that was a while ago. I wouldn't do a AEM unless it was HPF setup.
www.vi-pec.com

AUD$2,500 and has all the features, inputs etc you would ever want. They have been involved with many BMW's and have trigger patterns and base maps for most.

It's also going to have 4 wheel traction control and cruise control added in a couple of months which will be a free firmware update. This means you will be able to set it up to have all the standard features of the car running and have all the extra features of a standalone ECU all in one box.
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AUD$2,500 and has all the features, inputs etc you would ever want. They have been involved with many BMW's and have trigger patterns and base maps for most.

It's also going to have 4 wheel traction control and cruise control added in a couple of months which will be a free firmware update. This means you will be able to set it up to have all the standard features of the car running and have all the extra features of a standalone ECU all in one box.
yes i am very familiar with this one and been looking at the progress for some time now.
Most of the installs i've seen have been only on E36 3 series and M3s so far.
I'd like to see someone build a harness for plug and play if that's an option
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