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Old 12-06-2011, 11:59 PM   #241
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Not really, you're just saying things. You can strap in a different boot but the bindings are specially designed to accommodate Burton boots.

Think of it like wheels. Recently a lot of people want custom wheels, but never want to pay for a real custom set tailored to their car. So they buy some other ones and use spacers / bore it to fit correctly.

Get it?

Plus I don't see a reason to mix and match.
Well I'd never buy a button anyway do I guess it doesn't matter lol. Why wouldn't you want the freedom to mix and match? Button is like Dinan IMO.
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Most of burton's bindings are more on the stiff side and not as forgiving as a lot of other binding companies that are made specifically for park. Probably their best overall binding, the cartels, have a slight forward lean even at the lowest setting which is great if I'm riding hard or spinning off kickers, but sliding on a box is not that great.
The cartels are stiffffff, I got the Missions which are softer. I haven't had much problems with them in the park.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:06 AM   #243
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The cartels are way softer than what I had before. The bindings I had before had no pads at all. They were saloman. I liked those better. I can't stand a sloppy cushy ride.
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So I suppose I should go to Ski Chalet, try on the different boots, and then buy on amazon? Appears as if the bindings have a 8-10 size and a 10+ size.. not sure where I would fall on that scale (suppose it depends on the boots). I definitely want the heater built into the boots
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:50 AM   #245
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ive been riding on my burton CO2s for a couple years now and i have no complaints
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:25 PM   #246
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So I suppose I should go to Ski Chalet, try on the different boots, and then buy on amazon? Appears as if the bindings have a 8-10 size and a 10+ size.. not sure where I would fall on that scale (suppose it depends on the boots). I definitely want the heater built into the boots
I wear a size 11 in boots and my binding size is L/XL. Go to the shop and strap the boot into the binding. Look at all the adjustments and how far they can be adjusted.

Check out transworld snowboarding and this site: www.thegoodride.com they give a pretty detailed analysis of everything you will be looking for in a binding. Good luck!
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:30 PM   #247
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:31 AM   #248
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So, went to the Ski store last night and tried on a couple different boots. Really was NOT a fan of the Burtons and the "pull to lace" stuff. For some reason, they just didn't squeeze my chicken legs up near the top of the boot.

Then I tried on these bad boys from K2 and LOVED them.. you just turn those two dials and tada, you're good to go


Also looked at bindings and couldn't really tell a difference but the guy recomended either the Burton Cartels (which I liked because they'll go with the black boots) or the Burton Missions. I think I"ll go with the cartels simply for the color

Anyone drastically oppose either of those purchases? Oh, and the prices on Amazon mirror those of the ski store... are there any other places I should be looking online to get good deals?
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^ i dont have personal experience with any of the fancy lace setups, but people complain about them a lot. supposedly they break easily and dont work so well when youre up on the mountain and snow and ice is getting stuck everywhere. plus theyre also considerably more expensive than standard lace-ups
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^ i dont have personal experience with any of the fancy lace setups, but people complain about them a lot. supposedly they break easily and dont work so well when youre up on the mountain and snow and ice is getting stuck everywhere. plus theyre also considerably more expensive than standard lace-ups
Oh that's not a good review.. funny you mention that because I brought up that exact point (what happens if this locking mechanism breaks) and the guy was saying that he "hadn't heard of anyone having issues with them"... argh

Perhaps I should look online for more reviews.. they felt great that's for sure
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:56 PM   #252
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Burton bindings are specially shaped for Burton boots.
ohhh reelly..
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the guy at the store last night said you can rock most boots with most bindings.. said using K2 boots with Burton bindings will be fine??
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the guy at the store last night said you can rock most boots with most bindings.. said using K2 boots with Burton bindings will be fine??
you can mix and match
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:28 PM   #256
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got away from it because of college but i am hitting the slopes hard this year!!! i wanna get a sick sb rack for my 323ci
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the new rome hybrid cambers are sick and there canting system bindings wish i had the $$$$
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just got those same boots in dc. got them for $100 new and very happy =)
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Oh that's not a good review.. funny you mention that because I brought up that exact point (what happens if this locking mechanism breaks) and the guy was saying that he "hadn't heard of anyone having issues with them"... argh

Perhaps I should look online for more reviews.. they felt great that's for sure
sorry dude, but that guy was definitely lying to you. prolly just wanted to make more commission

if you're careful and they dont break, you might like them more. personally, i dont see the reason for the fancy lace-up mechanisms. it's not like you're constantly taking the boot on and off; you lace them up once and they dont come off until you're done riding, so the fact that it's easier to lace up your boots doesnt really make your life that much more convenient. i also feel like i can get my boots as tight as i want them to be just by pulling hard on the laces when i tie my boots
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Oh that's not a good review.. funny you mention that because I brought up that exact point (what happens if this locking mechanism breaks) and the guy was saying that he "hadn't heard of anyone having issues with them"... argh

Perhaps I should look online for more reviews.. they felt great that's for sure
I have friends with the 1st gen BOA system you are talking about. He has had his boots for about 5 years now and the BOA system gets loose sometimes, not to the point of falling off but he does have to retighten every once in a while. The BOA system now are much better, most are pretty fail-proof and they are quite a lot easier to strap up. BUT, if you don't mind laces, laces in the long run will be much better. You can adjust where you want tightened and where you want loosened much better with laces. (with BOA you'll need 2 different cranks just to tighten lower boot and top boot.) On top of that, replacing laces cost about 10 bucks whereas replacing BOA, you might as well get a new boot.
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Also looked at bindings and couldn't really tell a difference but the guy recomended either the Burton Cartels (which I liked because they'll go with the black boots) or the Burton Missions. I think I"ll go with the cartels simply for the color
If you don't ride a lot in the terrain park and just do powder / mountain riding - the Cartels are a great choice.
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