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Old 04-12-2015, 09:47 AM   #1
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My top does not close completely - Cover is ajar - Need help!

While the top will latch and the lights go off it is clear that something is wrong. I would like to fix this. Please help









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Old 04-14-2015, 09:57 PM   #2
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Anybody?

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:37 PM   #3
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The photos don't help.

Can you grab the lid and move it up/down? Or is it solidly secured, just raised up a bit?

The motor under the rear seat pulls the storage lid down tight, so I'd start there. Anyone that has tried to open the top manually knows they have to push down on the lid while turning the allen key under the rear seat, otherwise the latches won't lock.
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Old 04-16-2015, 06:26 PM   #4
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The drivers side latch clearly grabs hold of the lid. The passenger side feels like the latch is not attached to the lid as I can grab the lid and move it up and down (and this is not true on the driver side). To me it looks like the lid is resting on the prongs / latches that connect to the windshield frame. When I open the top it seems to drop the last few inches into the storage compartment with a thud instead of lowering slowly under control. I can use it currently as the dash light does go out and the lid is secure even though it does not appear to latch on the passenger side. My thought is it's only a matter of time before it stops working so i would like to fix it before it's too late. I have looked over the guide for rebuilding the hydraulic cylinders so I'm sure that will need to be done at some point in the future but I was hoping to put any major repairs off for another summer season. Any help here is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:43 AM   #5
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I'm still not clear. It appears both sides don't sit flush. If so, I'm surprised one side is loose and the other latched tight.

I would start by checking the motor under the rear seat to ensure both cable are secured properly and are being pulled tight as the motor turns. Perhaps the passenger side cable is loose or broken, and without both cables the lid cannot be pulled down tight.
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Old 04-17-2015, 06:00 AM   #6
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You are correct in that most of the time both sides don't sit flush but the driver side is indeed latched tight and the passenger side is not. It seems to me that the passenger side has never been latched tight even when it would sit flat. I also seem to remember that when I had one loose wire and was closing the top manually I could push down on the top and get it where the lid would lay flat but even then I don't believe the passenger side was latched tight. My thought is I have 2 problems. One - the top is not storing all the way down flat. Two - The passenger side latch is not working. When I pull the back seat up and look at the cables they look OK but if I remember correctly don't you have to pull the top cover off to see where they actually connect? How do I identify what is causing the passenger side latch to malfunction? What would cause the top to not store flat and how would you fix that? Thanks again for your help. Mike
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:58 PM   #7
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You are correct in that most of the time both sides don't sit flush but the driver side is indeed latched tight and the passenger side is not. It seems to me that the passenger side has never been latched tight even when it would sit flat. I also seem to remember that when I had one loose wire and was closing the top manually I could push down on the top and get it where the lid would lay flat but even then I don't believe the passenger side was latched tight. My thought is I have 2 problems. One - the top is not storing all the way down flat. Two - The passenger side latch is not working. When I pull the back seat up and look at the cables they look OK but if I remember correctly don't you have to pull the top cover off to see where they actually connect? How do I identify what is causing the passenger side latch to malfunction? What would cause the top to not store flat and how would you fix that? Thanks again for your help. Mike
Try this:

1. Remove the rear seat, flip up the cover to expose the cables, then rotate the motor using the allen key until you see the cable ends. Try pulling the passenger side cable, if it is broken, or disconnected on the other end, you might be able to pull it all the way out!

2. Check where the cable attaches to the latch. Review the instructions for the hydraulic main lift cylinders, it shows how to remove the cable from the latch.

3. Remove the centre section of the passenger rear trim. Part of the cable runs behind it, so you can grab the cable and pull in either direction to see if its broken or disconnected.

I doubt the latch is broken, although you never know.
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:44 PM   #8
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OP -- I had the same issue with the tonneau cover not latching on one side. My issue was related to the hook breaking on one of the Bowden cables. The good news is that the cables are only about $30 and the repair is not too bad...

The following links should provide some helpful guidance:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=789954
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1050219
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