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Old 07-23-2010, 09:00 AM   #1
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Dealer refuses to inspect a sub-frame

I made a subframe inspection appointment and the service guy tells me that there is no recalls on my particular car
I showed him the letter and in a nicely manner explained that they MUST perform a free inspection, and he says that the letter doesn't necessarily mean all 3 series, and they won't perform a free inspection. The general service manager wasn't aware of the sub-frame problem either, pissed the sh&t out of me. I was going to call the BMW NA right away, but some service guy comes up to the manager and tells him that yes, they are suppose to inspect sub-frame damage for free, now I am sitting in a lobby and waiting hopefully for the good news.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:03 AM   #2
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im having mine done on monday; my dealership SA was very aware of it. but i could see that most probably wouldn't be. do you have a copy of the letter by chance?
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:07 AM   #3
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When is the deadline to get this inspection?


Also, are manuals and the earlier e46's more susceptible to this subframe tearing?
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:10 AM   #4
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I went to a pretty big BMW dealership that does A LOT of business in the NJ/PA/DE/NY area and they told me mine was only the third or fourth car in almost a year that's come in for an inspection. I didn't even have the letter with me since I figured they would have gotten tons of requests already...
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:10 AM   #5
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When is the deadline to get this inspection?


Also, are manuals and the earlier e46's more susceptible to this subframe tearing?
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=679669

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Old 07-23-2010, 09:10 AM   #6
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When is the deadline to get this inspection?


Also, are manuals and the earlier e46's more susceptible to this subframe tearing?

from what i understand the deadline is sometime in sept of this year and yes early e46s are a bit more susceptible...

good luck...
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:12 AM   #7
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im having mine done on monday; my dealership SA was very aware of it. but i could see that most probably wouldn't be. do you have a copy of the letter by chance?
I don't, but I think they are aware of it, however they are trying to get away from repairing it.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:13 AM   #8
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Also, are manuals and the earlier e46's more susceptible to this subframe tearing?
From what the SM told me when I had mine done, yes. The older 99-01's have more torque at launch and manual drivers have a proclivity to launch harder more often. Coupled with the fact that they're the oldest e46's on the road, you get more chance of having subframe issues...
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:19 AM   #9
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From what the SM told me when I had mine done, yes. The older 99-01's have more torque at launch and manual drivers have a proclivity to launch harder more often. Coupled with the fact that they're the oldest e46's on the road, you get more chance of having subframe issues...

So its also a matter of years on the road than construction? I thought they may have reinforced the later e46's to prevent this problem.

I will have to take it ot the dealer then. Mine is a 2003 e46 AUTO.
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BTW, what is the ratio of owners who actually brought their vehicle in and FOUND tearing?

Are there statistics being kept somewhere. We should start a poll if one hasnt yet been created.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:27 AM   #11
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mine is 2000 323ci. pretty big tearing.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:35 AM   #12
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bringing mine in today. they asked me about the letter and I told them I just bought the car and read up about the frame issue. they confirmed, no charge for inspection.

I am hoping to see what they are looking at (location) so even after the deadline I can look at it to keep an eye on it.
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they had better not scratch my leather while inspecting. i haven't let somebody touch my car since i got it everything has been diy
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:43 AM   #14
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bringing mine in today. they asked me about the letter and I told them I just bought the car and read up about the frame issue. they confirmed, no charge for inspection.

I am hoping to see what they are looking at (location) so even after the deadline I can look at it to keep an eye on it.
the guy who is inspecting my car is staring at the computer all the time
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:46 AM   #15
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BTW, what is the ratio of owners who actually brought their vehicle in and FOUND tearing?

Are there statistics being kept somewhere. We should start a poll if one hasnt yet been created.
there was a big thread about it with a cumulative list of subframe inspection with pass failure results etc... ill try to find it in a bit. the basic consensus is 99-01 have MANY more failures than 02-05... there were like 70 99-01's, 1 02, and 1 '03 then an oddball '05 i think
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the guy who is inspecting my car is staring at the computer all the time
oh god lol the awkward tension of somebody working on your car.. i know how you feel like you want to go out there and be like hey man be careful i just conditioned my interior and also look out for this this and this... oh and this
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:50 AM   #17
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oh god lol the awkward tension of somebody working on your car.. i know how you feel like you want to go out there and be like hey man be careful i just conditioned my interior and also look out for this this and this... oh and this
Lol exactly
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:59 AM   #18
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I had mine repaired before the class suit. i have a 99 323i that was torn pretty bad. Waiting to see if i get my $900 dollars refunded.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:42 AM   #19
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They did found the crack and its only about 20mm. They assured my that its safe drive, once they receive the parts they will repair it. Yay
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op what is your year/model?
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