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Old 05-07-2016, 10:51 PM   #1
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What's hurting this low mile M3 from selling?

This M3 was listed at $13,000 and is now it's down to $11,500.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/cto/5564453956.html



So what does everyone think is it's issue. At 64K miles and it comes with a Hardtop, BMW Navigation, 19" OEM wheels, Bi-Xenons and it's NOT a salvaged title.
So is it the color, Phoenix Yellow was dropped by BMW on the E46 M3 for it's poor sales. I can't think of a standard color more polarizing as Phoenix Yellow. It seems either love it or hate it.
Is it because it's a Convertible? I like convertibles, but I know many sport car fanatics don't like the open top when looking to buy.
Or is it because it's SMG? I mean it's come a long way but with an E46 M3 stick is still more desired.
Or is it the trifecta of unloved selections?
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:55 PM   #2
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It is hideous. And it's a convertible. Personally, I can't believe BMW made such an ugly car.
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:57 PM   #3
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guess it could get worse if it had a Grey interior instead of Black
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Old 05-07-2016, 11:43 PM   #4
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Those blacked out badges, lenses and grill make it look like the teenager special. Then SMG, then convertible, misaligned body panels and paint overspray I think it's easy to see why serious M3 lookers aren't biting.
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Old 05-08-2016, 12:00 AM   #5
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I agree with previous posts, and it probably hasn't had the rod bearings done. It looks somewhat clean in the pics, but may have issues showing in person?

The miles and price are suprising though...
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Old 05-08-2016, 03:47 AM   #6
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In my book the biggest negative factor is the smg. Few other things, i.e. the stain on the passenger seat, the hood emblem, and the angel eyes don't look good, but these are minor in comparison.
The color combo is good, even though it's not for evertyone. The car is a convertible, also not for everyone, but the fact that it has a hardtop is a big plus for me - not only this is a nice thing to have, but also tells me the owner cared for the car.

The ad can be made a lot better and the photos aren't clear and not very informative, but there is enough to make a potential buyer want to come and see the car in person. If I was on the market and the smg wasn't a deal breaker for me , I sertainly would have been interested.
Low mileage M3 and the price seems very fair to me. Heck, I would hate to have to sell my 150K miles 330i for less than $10K. The seller is understandably frustrated.

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Old 05-08-2016, 03:58 AM   #7
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+1 on the SMG and color being negative factors. Costs more to maintain (SMG) and who the heck doesn't want a 6-speed?
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:06 AM   #8
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SMG, and the baby-**** paint scheme. I think the price is a bit on the high side as well. Of course, a 'vert buyer is a limited market also. So, the car needs the right buyer ('vert) just to get teh ball rolling, then it needs somebody likes dirty diapers of a newborn.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:42 AM   #9
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It's sooooo ugly. (Of course, that's just my opinion) I agree with lingon in that I can't believe BMW would produce such an ugly car.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:51 AM   #10
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Old 05-08-2016, 11:11 AM   #11
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Those blacked out badges, lenses and grill make it look like the teenager special. Then SMG, then convertible, misaligned body panels and paint overspray I think it's easy to see why serious M3 lookers aren't biting.
This^^^^^^. Plus not one mention of anything mechanical that's been done to the car, fluid changes, PM or whether or not it's been wrecked.
If local, I would stop by, but wouldn't make a big effort. Screams to me a kid with very little regard for anything but the way it looks, drove it.
I happen to be the minority that likes verts, but that color is going to push out 95% of the general population. I couldn't stand to look at it in my garage every day.

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CLEAN TITLE. Title in hand tires they're almost new I have also hardtop for the car everything work on it car has so many extra for more info*show contact info*
Plus the grammar in the ad makes me question his intelligence. My grammar sucks. Anything with a $13,000 impact on my bank account would be proofed by someone in the know.
All of the above comments may be unfair to the seller, but he's the one trying to sell something.
Fear is a large motivating factor in who we don't buy from. This car scares me.

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Old 05-08-2016, 12:17 PM   #12
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A trifecta of ugly as you said. Would make a freight train take a dirt road. Owned by a tool obviously because only a tool would buy such a thing in the first place.
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Old 05-08-2016, 03:06 PM   #13
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it must be the SMG as the primary factor. I would buy a M3, but only a MT and a non vert. It seems there are a high percentage of Vert M3s for sale as compared to non verts (at least in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area). That alone says something.
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it must be the SMG as the primary factor. I would buy a M3, but only a MT and a non vert. It seems there are a high percentage of Vert M3s for sale as compared to non verts (at least in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area). That alone says something.
Same here. Vert SMG M3s are dime a dozen. I have a vert and love it, but I wouldn't have it on an M3.

I'm lucky to be driving both and it's easy to notice the body flex. It makes for a more compliant ride but again, not on an M3.

But that's why we have choices. I'm sure someone out there is drooling over this g-ride.
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Old 05-08-2016, 04:12 PM   #15
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Color, Modifications, Soft Top. I think that's three things M3 buyers are not looking for at your price.

Although I think the Hard Top cancels out the Cabriolet.
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Old 05-08-2016, 04:19 PM   #16
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I really think it'sthe color and it being an sSMG transmission. But likely more because it's an smg more than anything else. The price is attractive for being an //M.

Being a convertible is plus, especially with the hardtop. Could never really like the coupe, that'sjust me. This seems to be the best way to go, coupe if you feel like it with better lines, a vert coz it's better being one.

Lastly, the lack of maintenance info is a major deterant.
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I really think it'sthe color and it being an sSMG transmission. But likely more because it's an smg more than anything else. The price is attractive for being an //M.

Being a convertible is plus, especially with the hardtop. Could never really like the coupe, that'sjust me. This seems to be the best way to go, coupe if you feel like it with better lines, a vert coz it's better being one.

Lastly, the lack of maintenance info is a major deterant.
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:41 AM   #18
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man that color is ugly, it's not even a nice color yellow. There are so many other shades of yellow that wouldn't look so bad
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:52 AM   #19
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SMG, Vert, Phoenix Yellow. That has got to be the worst possible combination haha
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:18 AM   #20
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Car would probably look OK if returned to stock. I'm guessing the color and SMG doesn't help it. Also the guy used his cell phone to take pics to sell a fairly major asset. That suggest he doesn't care all too much which probably reflects on his car ownership. Which could mean the car also drives like poo.
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