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Old 09-08-2010, 12:21 AM   #21
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If you're going to let your sister drive it again, and I probably would considering family and all, I don't think I'd put a lightened flywheel and non-stock clutch in. Performance clutches and lightweight flywheels can be fairly unforgiving. Stock stuff works well and is designed to make it easier to use, which means you probably still have the CDV in (clutch delay valve).
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:42 AM   #22
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OP,

Unlikely, but before you assume all is toast and order parts, might just ask a local fanatic that knows how to drive a stick to come over and have your sister give him or her the keys to test it out.

She doesn't know how to drive a clutch, so no telling whether she really doesn't, unless you find someone that really does.

I'd think that a severely heated pressure plate would cause clutch to loose grip..my e36 used to buck wildly in stop and go traffic coz it didn't cruise in idle like the e46...clutch would heat up and just not grip well at all.

Prolly clutch...be we have to consider the source! Nothing personal...I'm sure guys want photos of her!

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Old 09-08-2010, 05:47 AM   #23
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on a side note. If you are looking for a good indy shop in orange county. Call up Ronin, they charged me a really fair price when it came to installing my fuel pump. I got screwed over on a clutch replacement before going to these guys... wish I should've gone there first. Good luck!
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:43 AM   #24
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I would have hidden the key or taken it with me. She broke it, she fixes it. If she doesn't have the money, what is she doing driving it? Drop her off on a corner to raise the funds.
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:56 AM   #25
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I would have hidden the key or taken it with me. She broke it, she fixes it. If she doesn't have the money, what is she doing driving it? Drop her off on a corner to raise the funds.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:15 AM   #26
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I bought a Fiat X1/9 brand new in '76.

I let my sister drive it and she mis-shifted and killed the third gear syncro (so I got to listen to it grind every time I went into third).

Eventually I dropped the drivetrain with a 5-speed and bigger engine in the car (after a fuel pump diaphragm failure killed the engine). I titled it in my ex's name. Then she took "her car" when we split. Then totaled it.

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Old 09-08-2010, 10:45 AM   #27
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I would have hidden the key or taken it with me. She broke it, she fixes it. If she doesn't have the money, what is she doing driving it? Drop her off on a corner to raise the funds.
chivalrous bro..

i would just fix it yourself. people make mistakes, and its your sister. like op said family is far far more important than this trivial event.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:19 AM   #28
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Wow, some straight up evil people in here! If my fam was ready to beat/kill/disown me over a clutch, I think I'd be worried about a little more than just the car.
Sounds like you're lucky enough to have this happen while your away and don't need the car. I had replaced my clutch in my old car with a single mass vs dual and I must say, this upgrade is not for someone who can hardly diagnose a burnt up clutch (not to be offensive). light weight flywheels and Sport clutches are heavy and finicky, meaning bye bye smooth shifts, more power off the line(no more 1k starts) and not as easy to pull off in second. I'd say go stock.
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:12 PM   #29
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Okay so I found out the problem! The clutch actually still has some life on it. The problem is my slave cylinder. It is burnt up. My friend is quoting me at 200 for the slave cylinder with about 3 hours of labor! I'm pretty ecstatic right now, that this was the only problem. I genuinely appreciate all of your help, and if any of you are in DC meet me at Eden on Thursday night, i'll buy you a few shots of patron. Thanks again guys! This forum is the SHIET!
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I appreciate all of your posts! Is the clutch disk a part of the "clutch kit." Or is that something different in and of itself. And what does a "lighted" flywheel mean? Used? Sorry, I am not familiar with the lingo, to be honest i have no idea what a flywheel is or does even. Also what is the gearbox?
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get her a civic and replace your clutch when you're back with your car. That'll give you an excuse to not let her drive your car.
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I would have hidden the key or taken it with me. She broke it, she fixes it. If she doesn't have the money, what is she doing driving it? Drop her off on a corner to raise the funds.
it's just a car...
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so you're pissed that your clutch needs to be replaced on an 8 year old car? One incident like that isn't going to turn a brand new clutch into toast, so your clutch disc was probably already on the way out, especially if she was having problems getting up the hill in first gear.

Learn your lesson, and teach her to drive stick a bit better. FYI, my original clutch taught three other people how to drive stick, and was still in pretty good shape when replaced at 100,000 miles
One incident like this could easily shred even a brand new clutch. Having the clutch pedal fully released while the car is not moving and the engine is being revved to 5k+ rpm will make quick work of any organic clutch after 15 or 20 seconds.

That sucks. I am skeptical about even letting my brother borrow my car, and he drives a manual car on a daily basis. I have 110k on the original clutch and it shows no signs of slippage yet.
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:29 PM   #35
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Long story short, dont ever let anyone else ever drive your car. Also, that story doesnt make any sense at all, she is lying.

Especially women.

I will not let my girlfriend drive my car period.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:15 PM   #36
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Woo hooo I was right in my first post. Well kind of. I said it could be the slave cylinder although I doubted it! Sorry had to toot my own horn on that one. Op I'm glad you got it figured out, and be glad it was only the slave, although sooner or later you will need a clutch. Let's just hope its later for your sake . Enjoy your stay in the dc/nova area its beautiful minus the traffic!

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