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Old 01-01-2013, 09:10 PM   #281
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couple mistakes there......

the dynavin's reverse wire is green....

ON THE CAMERA WE SELL the red wires at both ends are on the same circuit, the wire is provided as a convenience so you dont have tor run an extra wire (as you mention in your post).

The red wire at the camera end connects to the reverse light circuit (usually at the reverse light).

The red wire at the dash end connects to the dynavins reverse wire.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:29 PM   #282
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couple mistakes there......

the dynavin's reverse wire is green....

ON THE CAMERA WE SELL the red wires at both ends are on the same circuit, the wire is provided as a convenience so you dont have tor run an extra wire (as you mention in your post).

The red wire at the camera end connects to the reverse light circuit (usually at the reverse light).

The red wire at the dash end connects to the dynavins reverse wire.
Thanks! That was what I originally thought, as the fuse box or reverse light circuit connection should turn off or on the camera power, and the other end of the red wire connected to the Dynavin reverse wire will tell the Dynavin whether the reverse camera is on or off. Unfortunately when I first tried it, I rough connected to the fuse and must have got an always-on power source, as I couldn't get the camera to turn off!

Will try to fix that next...
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Sorry, I'm not familiar with the Dynavin.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:36 PM   #284
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The good news is that I got it all setup and working perfectly. And looking back on it, the reverse camera that Jeff offers is probably one of the most simple and e46 stock-compliant reverse camera installs for the Dynavin. I learned a lot of Dos and Don'ts in the process:

When installing the camera light in the trunk handle...
DON'T wire the camera through the hole behind the back of the lamp, possibly melting the cable...and your car.
DO poke the wire through the foam backer and cut a channel in the backer for the wire to lid connection. This way, you won't need to pop open the trunk handle casing, which will most likely break.

When threading the camera wire through the elephant trunk rubber wire conduit connecting the trunk lid to the body...
DON'T try to fish the wire using a flat coiled cable fish wire. Only giving birth will get that through.
DO use a straightened coat hanger wire with a hook on the end and tape over it heavily, then cover it with lubrication. It will take work, but you can pull it through, as long as it doesn't get caught on any other wires.

When connecting the red camera side power wire...
DON'T connect it to the reverse light fuse in the glove compartment. That fuse is actually always on. If you make the other connections and try it, the camera will turn on and work, but it will never shut off, did you can't change it from the Dynavin. Great if you want it to be a reverse camera only, but you may want to play some music sometime.
DO take the wire and patch it to one of the the reverse light power wires in the trunk. The Bentley manual confirmed that the 2reverse light power wires are blue with a yellow stripe and use the elephant trunk tube to go into the trunk lid. If you get a T connector for 18 gauge wire from Radio Shack and attach the red power line to the blue/yellow wire heading into the trunk lid, you a set. As for the black ground wire, there is a ground nut on the body right next to the trunk tube. You can easily use the nut to tie it down.

Went connecting the red power wire on the RCA side to the Reverse cable on the back of the Dynavin...
DON'T just wrap the wire around the connector. It looks crappy and probably will work that way, too.
DO add a male bullet connector for 18 gauge wire to the red wire, then connect into the female bullet connector already on the end of the Dynavin reverse cable. Looks and works much better.

Hope this helps everyone in their future installs!
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I have a convertible and it looks like the guys with coupes and verts have problems with lack of depth in the reverse lamp housing. The sedan guys have the ability to plug and play but coupes and vets have to shave housing and do some hacking down to get these to fit. The one in your link looks a bit deep and you might have to grind it down a lot to make it fit. I've been looking into adding a camera to my 04 325CI.

Maybe this one would prevent some of the depth related problems coupe and vert guys are having? Other than this one I have seen a youtube video where an M3 vert owner put one in where the key hole for the trunk is. The only thing I would be concerned with that is if the keyless trunk solenoid ever had problems I think I would be locked out of the trunk?

http://jandtdistributing.com/dynavin...6%20camera.jpg

Woah I need this! Where is this at?
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That looks like an excellent item. I would have done that, if I knew it was available when I did my install.
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Woah I need this! Where is this at?
The camera link is here,

http://jandtdistributing.com/dynavin...backup-camera/

it is $55.00 and located in the U.S. (no need to wait for an international shipper)

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Re: Reverse Camera Install Locations

Hi

Have an eonon 5150 and have run some wiring for the backup cam but cannot figure out how to remove the trim on the inside of the rear window of my 2005 touring to route the wire to the rear number plate light I am going to replace.

I know this is a bit off topic but does anyone know ?

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For those of you who went with the ebay camera: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=400480245484

What are your long term opinions of it? Has it lasted? What about the LEDs? Have you found a replacement LED bulb for the other side that somewhat matches the color and light output to even it out?
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I had to go that route due to the camera in post #285 above not being compatible with a facelift coupe/convertible, which is too bad because it was really nice. The eBay camera is "ok" I guess. It definitely doesn't have the same quality as a $200.00 CCD camera but for what I paid it gets the job done just fine.
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The back of the EBay camera was way too deep and took extensive modification to fit properly. It's been running well for about 4 yrs with no problems. The LED plate light still works fine. I was able to match the color but the camera light is about 1/3 the size. So it's not as bright as the side. Not a big deal for me.
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The back of the EBay camera was way too deep and took extensive modification to fit properly. It's been running well for about 4 yrs with no problems. The LED plate light still works fine. I was able to match the color but the camera light is about 1/3 the size. So it's not as bright as the side. Not a big deal for me.
There's a couple ebay cameras that look similar but some have much shallower backs. Was yours one of the shallower ones like in the link I posted (this is the one I ordered) or was it the taller one?

I've read conflicting reports that this one I ordered is shallower and fits the sedan's larger trim piece housing.
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There's a couple ebay cameras that look similar but some have much shallower backs. Was yours one of the shallower ones like in the link I posted (this is the one I ordered) or was it the taller one?

I've read conflicting reports that this one I ordered is shallower and fits the sedan's larger trim piece housing.
The pictures on EBay can be deceiving. I bought what I thought was a shallow depth, supposed to fit a sedan but it wasn't to be.
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The pictures on EBay can be deceiving. I bought what I thought was a shallow depth, supposed to fit a sedan but it wasn't to be.
Just saw your install pictures, yours is definitely the taller one.

Also...did you just remove the plastic light cover and not any of the light bulb housing or anything else behind there? I'm pretty sure all that should be removed prior to install...
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Just saw your install pictures, yours is definitely the taller one.

Also...did you just remove the plastic light cover and not any of the light bulb housing or anything else behind there? I'm pretty sure all that should be removed prior to install...
I had to remove the entire housing to run the wires. PITA
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Hey all, sorry to revive a thread gone quiet... It's been a while since my last post. To be honest I've been in the mode where I thought I would be looking to sell my E46. Anyway, until recently when my sister came to visit and I had to actual drive my car more than just to and fro on my daily commute. Started realizing the inadequacies due to age of the OEM Nav unit. Was looking into BSW's Soundplicity, or iSimple Tranzit BLU HF but just feel like those would just feel like hacks, don't like that the screen wouldn't display text etc so now considering the Avin Avant. Then of course I saw the Avin Avant has a simple input for the reverse camera... which lead me to this thread.

Don't think I'd touch the cheap eBay camera. I don't like the idea of the shoddy build quality. I've never shied away paying more for a better product. So I found this - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Veyron-VC-BM...-/250904997448 Which is 4x as expensive but seems to be a much higher build quality. I have a CSL trunk so I especially like that it specifically mentions this part is meant as a replacement for the E46 CSL and E39. One of the things that make me hesitant about the other cheaper models is most of them state the part fits perfectly in both the E46 (non-CSL) and E39 which I know is impossible since the E39 trunk lights are much narrower.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone has tried this particular camera. Between the Avin Avant and now this mucho expensive camera I'm looking at a grand when everything is said and done. Not sure if I want to go through that trouble if I just plan to sell/trade the car... LOL
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As someone who works in the electronics field (I am an embedded systems developer), You are paying someone else to take quite possibly the same circuit board and CCD camera, and rebrand it.

I have accounts with Chinese suppliers who are not only responsive to my company's needs, but also push out quality products. Don't get me wrong, however, you CAN pay someone to rebrand, and in some cases, it's dangerous to buy parts from china (READ: Sparco Taiwan "FIA-Certified" seats), however when it comes to electronics, I would venture to guess that 90% of the world's electronics originate in China (Or Taiwan).

My personal philosophy is that if it won't kill me (EG: Safety-critical systems), I order from my Chinese suppliers.

Don't let a lower price be a determining factor in your purchasing. I build LED lighting systems as a hobby and for friends. I have ordered literally more than a thousand high-power LED arrays, and the only issues I've had is when I overloaded them (Stress testing for voltage spikes). Every single piece I have gotten has gotten to my door in less than a week, and at 30% of the cost of the U.S. suppliers.


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A quick search brought up this: Search result

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I actually went back and double checked and now realized its a moot point, the camera in question is PAL. Not going to work
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As someone who works in the electronics field (I am an embedded systems developer), You are paying someone else to take quite possibly the same circuit board and CCD camera, and rebrand it.

I have accounts with Chinese suppliers who are not only responsive to my company's needs, but also push out quality products. Don't get me wrong, however, you CAN pay someone to rebrand, and in some cases, it's dangerous to buy parts from china (READ: Sparco Taiwan "FIA-Certified" seats), however when it comes to electronics, I would venture to guess that 90% of the world's electronics originate in China (Or Taiwan).

My personal philosophy is that if it won't kill me (EG: Safety-critical systems), I order from my Chinese suppliers.

Don't let a lower price be a determining factor in your purchasing. I build LED lighting systems as a hobby and for friends. I have ordered literally more than a thousand high-power LED arrays, and the only issues I've had is when I overloaded them (Stress testing for voltage spikes). Every single piece I have gotten has gotten to my door in less than a week, and at 30% of the cost of the U.S. suppliers.


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A quick search brought up this: Search result
Hmmm thanks for the link for the VW one... maybe theres a US version of the BMW one... I'll keep looking. Your point about the cheaper solution is sorta preaching to the choir here The main reason I liked the one I posted the link for was because it acknowledges the exact part its supposed to replace as opposed to nilly willy listing cars it can be used for.

Anyway, hopefully I can find a version in the US that's NTSC
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Hmmm thanks for the link for the VW one... maybe theres a US version of the BMW one... I'll keep looking. Your point about the cheaper solution is sorta preaching to the choir here The main reason I liked the one I posted the link for was because it acknowledges the exact part its supposed to replace as opposed to nilly willy listing cars it can be used for.

Anyway, hopefully I can find a version in the US that's NTSC
Some head units accept a NTSC or PAL signal. I know t he Eonon 5150 does. As the main board is probably used in multiple configurations, it makes economical sense to produce one board that can handle multiple inputs.

Check with your manufacturer of your head unit.
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