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Old 10-12-2010, 05:54 PM   #1
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Question for people who have/had EE LED tails.

with all the forum members complaining of EE tails sucking pretty hard, i wondered if i could figure out what the hell was causing them to fail so often. i'm an electrical engineer and thought i could poke around and see if there were any obvious problems with EE's design, and a very nice forum member mailed me a set of his broken tails, at his expense (thanks Bimmer4Lyfe!).

so i checked these things out and there was nothing really obvious. aside from the board looking sorta like a kid's science project, the circuit seemed to work fine. all i could think of is that maybe water was getting in and shorting a connection somewhere. then i remembered that old problem (and solution) that a lot of people had with their OEM bulb taillights:

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The problem is that the connector pin for the ground is too thin to carry all that current to the bulbs reliably. So eventually the pin builds up electrical resistance and will melt in some cases. Running a parallel connection using a thicker connector will solve it.
explanation and fix is halfway down the page, here: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=512469

the EE taillights prevent the bulb-out warning by drawing the same amount of current as the regular OEM bulbs do. so theoretically they should have the same problem with the connector melting, flaky ground connection, etc.

so, has anyone tried a similar fix on their aftermarket LED tails? for some reason it seems obvious to me now, i can't be the first one that's thought of it... if anyone's done it, i'm curious to see if they held up any more reliably.
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Old 10-12-2010, 05:59 PM   #2
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theres a thread going on somewhere about someone trying to fix them
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:23 PM   #3
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theres a thread going on somewhere about someone trying to fix them
yeah that was me. i posted this question in that thread a few weeks ago, but the thread basically died so i doubt many people saw it. i was thinking that someone must have tried this...
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:58 PM   #4
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I have no idea what you are talking about. I used to have Eagle Eye LED taillights on my old E46 for about 20 months >> no problem at all. One of my friends has Eagle Eye LED taillights on his E46 for about 38 or so months >> 0 problems what so ever. My other friend has them on his E46 coupe for about 30 months and has a few leds out on one tail(ONLY BECAUSE HE CRACKED THE LENS AND WAS DRIVING WITH WATER RIGHT INSIDE THE TAILLIGHT, you could actually see the water flow there, boy was it funny, like an aquarium) and I have Eagle Eye LED taillights on my new E46 for about 4 months now, no problems.

All of the above Eagle Eye LED taillights were bought from different vendors (eBay and board sponsors) , so yes, I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:21 PM   #5
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I have heard of people's LEDs frying out, but I've had my EEs for 2.5 years without any problem other than an occasional and very short-lived bulb-out warning on cold start-ups.
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I've had EE tails for almost a year and a half with no problems what so ever, either.
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I wish they had OEM for sedans.. just thought id throw that in there.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:29 PM   #8
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I just installed my EE tails on my sedan and both do not work 03 325i. The trunk lights work and the interior trunk lights work. I got them from Khoalty, it's reading bulbs out in the back and my turn signals are blinking fast. I cant figure out how to get them to work, and I'd love to not get a ticket for not having rear blinkers!!! Any help would be AMAZING!!
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:42 PM   #9
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I wish they had OEM for sedans.. just thought id throw that in there.
Me too. This is why I have RCR tail lights instead of LED.
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funny......I have EE's on my ZHP and no issues what so ever either. Got my set from Jlevi SW and a friend of mine has a set from Bimmian and he doesn't have any issues either on his ZHP.
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I've had EE LED tails for 5 or 6 years now with zero issues
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Anyone run into my same issue??
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I've had mine coming up on two years. Work perfectly with nearly zero wear/fade (the white part looks like it's slightly yellowing but i'm not sure if its all in my head) Generally not a fan of non-OE lighting but they do look great. The only other lights I'd consider is Genuine BMW RCRs.
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So nobody has run into them not working or throwing a code?
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So could this be the problem? My black wire from the EE has nothing to connect to on the own harness
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Seems like a hit or miss with eagle eye. I bought mine from khoalty and after about a year, it started throwing codes for both rear tails, but the work perfectly fine. Im thinking its the resistor

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Neverrrrrmindddd had to tap stock harness ground wire to black EE ground wire. Now they work..
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Neverrrrrmindddd had to tap stock harness ground wire to black EE ground wire. Now they work..
What do you mean? Was the brown and black wires already connected?
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Nope brown stock harness ground wasn't connected to anything. I figured the black wire running from EE was the ground so I connected the with blue tap connector. And they now work
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Nope brown stock harness ground wasn't connected to anything. I figured the black wire running from EE was the ground so I connected the with blue tap connector. And they now work
Hmm...there has to be a reason why it wasnt connected
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