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Old 03-13-2012, 10:46 PM   #1081
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wow, wonder where the writers are going to go with the show now. Shane was the only one adding substantial tension/drama to the show.

If this show is supposed to be "character driven" as you all argue (although I think the writing/character arcs are weak) then they really just lost a great asset.

Rick is so annoying. He won't kill some stranger that is a threat to the whole group, but he's going to kill his best friend? Acting was bad, writing was bad. Yet again writers putting these guys in completely predictable and precarious situations.
Kill his best friend?

Rick didn't want to kill his best friend. Shane was growing completely unstable and lured Rick into the forest to kill him. Rick killed Shane in self defense.
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I would have to argue that Shane was a much bigger threat to the group than the stranger. He was so unstable that I doubt anyone including Lori and Carl were really safe. By killing Shane, Rick was protecting the group from his outbursts.

Also, I'm guessing that Rick will tell Lori what happened, and she will blame herself due to he conversation she had with Shane that afternoon.
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Am I the only one who is pondering the groups sustainability on that farm/plantation?

How the hell are they able to sustain themselves? Herschel said that they were on the bitter end of fuel with the generator like, 3-4 episodes. And wtf are they doing about food? Doesn't make sense to me.

And how have no walkers (until now) found their way to the farm?

And why don't they have more cars? I mean, I would want to gather as many cars as I could.
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wow, wonder where the writers are going to go with the show now. Shane was the only one adding substantial tension/drama to the show.

If this show is supposed to be "character driven" as you all argue (although I think the writing/character arcs are weak) then they really just lost a great asset.

Rick is so annoying. He won't kill some stranger that is a threat to the whole group, but he's going to kill his best friend? Acting was bad, writing was bad. Yet again writers putting these guys in completely predictable and precarious situations.
I think the writers are doing a excellent job with this show!

It's important to remember the show moves slower than the comic does. In the comic Daryl and Shane both die early, in the show they are kept for two full seasons. The writers are following the comic loosely in some parts and tight it others. Dale for instance dies after Shane and Daryl in the comic.

Furthermore, it's important to realize this show is more about character development than anything else. For those complaining about Rick being weak... Wait till next season when they are at the prison and the Governor comes in. Then you really get to see Rick's role as a leader!
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:15 PM   #1085
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It doesn't make sense that they are all infected. Why would they worry about getting bitten or scratched? Why has getting bit caused sickness then death then zombification? If you say that getting bitten or scratched just accelerates the already infected person, that is just contrived nonsense.
Being bitten/scratched induces a fever that kills you -- after you die, you come back as a zombie -- but the bite in and of itself is not what reanimates the dead. It just appears to be a secondary symptom, although it makes sense that they (and we, the audience) would have assumed being bitten caused zombification.

I think the show did an injustice in explaining (at the CDC) how the 'disease' works; i.e., it attacks the brain like meningitis, blah-blah-blah, thus establishing it to be scientifically explainable/natural in origin and leaving viewers with the expectation that it is a 'normal' disease (virus/bacteria). Given how it's kinda hard to carry electrical signals to natural, physics-abiding muscles when they're missing or decayed (e.g., zombie-girl at the park in ep101), it would have been better to leave it a mystery.

Edit: Hmmm.. I'll have to watch 106 again -- it's possible that Jenner's explanation of the infection allows for interpretation, and most of us were led to assume it was a scientific one even if he never actually said so. After all, you could probably scientifically explain a vampire, up to a certain point, and if your audience makes certain incorrect assumptions, oh well... especially as a red-herring in a story

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Old 03-13-2012, 11:26 PM   #1086
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Am I the only one who is pondering the groups sustainability on that farm/plantation?

How the hell are they able to sustain themselves? Herschel said that they were on the bitter end of fuel with the generator like, 3-4 episodes. And wtf are they doing about food? Doesn't make sense to me.

And how have no walkers (until now) found their way to the farm?

And why don't they have more cars? I mean, I would want to gather as many cars as I could.
walkers probably finished eating all the remaining humans and animals closer to the center of town. Now they're starving and finally venturing out farther to the outskirts where the farm is.

fuel - they can easily siphon gasoline from the abandoned cars. plenty of those around.

I don't see the point of having more cars. as long as there's enough room for everyone in case they needed to make a quick getaway. Less drivers, less trouble.

food - Hershel mentions they have around 50 cows, plenty of fruit trees, and a few water wells..
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I think the writers are doing a excellent job with this show!

It's important to remember the show moves slower than the comic does. In the comic Daryl and Shane both die early, in the show they are kept for two full seasons. The writers are following the comic loosely in some parts and tight it others. Dale for instance dies after Shane and Daryl in the comic.

Furthermore, it's important to realize this show is more about character development than anything else. For those complaining about Rick being weak... Wait till next season when they are at the prison and the Governor comes in. Then you really get to see Rick's role as a leader!
Cool... no spoiler alert with Daryl? I'm ****ing pissed now. He's the only reason I watch the show.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:11 AM   #1088
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Cool... no spoiler alert with Daryl? I'm ****ing pissed now. He's the only reason I watch the show.
Like I said, the writers are following the comic loosely. He was suppose to have died already, but the writers have kept him because viewers like his character.
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It doesn't make sense that they are all infected. Why would they worry about getting bitten or scratched? Why has getting bit caused sickness then death then zombification? If you say that getting bitten or scratched just accelerates the already infected person, that is just contrived nonsense. It's as if the writers thought of something cool, zombies, and then fell asleep while they were writing the how-to become a zombie bit. Then the biggest idiot in the room made all the final decisions as to the mechanics of the disease because all the smart writers were asleep.
In the Romero rules of Zombies, which is what the Walking Dead appears to follow, getting bit by a zombie will cause death, probably due to bacteria or poison from the saliva.

The actually turning into a zombie happens after death, it is not directly tied to the zombie bite, which is still fatal most of the time anyways.

This does help explain why zombies have taken over the World so easily. People dying of natural causes will become walkers anyways. You are living with a group of survivors, and one of them dies due to natural causes while everyone is sleeping, he reanimates and the whole group is gone by morning.

As for it being "contrived nonsense", we are talking about zombies here, it is a TV show based on a comic, which is based on other zombie fiction over the years.


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wow, wonder where the writers are going to go with the show now. Shane was the only one adding substantial tension/drama to the show.

If this show is supposed to be "character driven" as you all argue (although I think the writing/character arcs are weak) then they really just lost a great asset.

Rick is so annoying. He won't kill some stranger that is a threat to the whole group, but he's going to kill his best friend? Acting was bad, writing was bad. Yet again writers putting these guys in completely predictable and precarious situations.
They are gaining a really bad guy in the Governor, and all the baddies that work for him. Trust me, this is going to go very dark and will be full of tension.

Shane was a G-rated walk in the park compared to what's coming next. And if you read the comics, Shane is killed off as well, and it doesn't hurt it at all.
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Like I said, the writers are following the comic loosely. He was suppose to have died already, but the writers have kept him because viewers like his character.
I can't find Daryl in any of the comics. Sure he was in there?
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Am I the only one who is pondering the groups sustainability on that farm/plantation?

How the hell are they able to sustain themselves? Herschel said that they were on the bitter end of fuel with the generator like, 3-4 episodes. And wtf are they doing about food? Doesn't make sense to me.

And how have no walkers (until now) found their way to the farm?

And why don't they have more cars? I mean, I would want to gather as many cars as I could.
From what I've seen from the finale, I don't believe they stay on the farm that much longer. I could be wrong, but I think they may be moving on in the finale.
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Why have they not picked up any "zombie slayers/black rifles/M4's/AR-15's" throughout the first two seasons??? There have been plenty on the ground with ammo to go with it.
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We are going to meet the governor in season 3 and will all forget about Shane. If you read the books youll know the governor is one of the sickest characters.


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One thing I noticed is that if you go on their website they have behind the scene interviews with all the actors. If you look in the background all of them are being interviewed in locations that we already seen except one. Rick is always being interviewed in what seems like a modern day house. Like a type of city house, which would probably hint to where they are going to go next.



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anyone else feels like punching Carl in the face?

That boy needs a good beating. F*ck that timeout bullsh*t....
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I hate them. Now that Shane and Dale are gone, we just need the blonde headed bitvh that thinks that she's vaulable to get thrashed.
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