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Old 11-03-2010, 04:36 PM   #21
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thats what im saying, I wouldnt pay more than 2k for an E30.. and it better be in great condition.. and probably a 325 not a 318

these cars have a greater cult following of die hard enthusiasts than e46. its well beyond the kbb value and you'll have no idea the extent ppl (like me) will go through at to restore the car to its prestine condition. Roundel magazine even did an article on an e30 suggesting that it has a status that rivals the 2002. And per my experience (though you may call it a downgrade), I regret buying my e46 and even e36 before that when I rode and purchased my first e30. I swear this was the last solid and most reliable car BMW has ever made.

here are pics of mine with the original 20 year old interior still in brand new condition. Over 200,000 miles on the original engine and it has given me less problems than an e46. The m20 produces the same horsepower if not more than the m54 in the right condition, way more responsive, easier laid out (now thats sad)

I was waiting to introduce it at the end of this month when I finish restoring it, but I couldn't help it when I ran into this thread

Fresh and repainted sterling silver - 1.5k factory paint job (cheaper to paint these cars because of the ease of prep work with the body and smaller surface area)


original black interior

Preinspection being done right after the purchase


my friend's m3 euro spec'd


these are great cars. Before my car got repainted i was twice offered 4-6k from random ppl i met at the parking lot. while my friend who owned a 90k mile mtech 2 convertible was offered 11k.

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Old 11-03-2010, 04:52 PM   #22
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^^ that looks awesome!
And yes, Im definitely seeing the "over kbb" value market that you mention.
How much did you get yours for?
So you are saying that E30's for 200k on the clock still have life in them?
I found one: 1987 BMW 325ES with almost 195k miles.. manual tranny, but the owner says it needs new suspension (car is lowered).
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:00 PM   #23
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I got mine for $2000 (but willing to pay more because it was one of the few sterling silver models left near the end of the e30 life cycle, thank god my bluff worked) and it was in okay condition (mechanically good but cosmetically sucky)... I was stupid and didn't buy it before that stupid magazine article. The same owner had it for $1,200 4 months before that. I've put in close to 3k on it and thats (brand new OEM parts). Cost of ownership is cheap with this car. My insurance with an e46 was 700 a year but this car was $300. I get great gas mileage compared to my e46. Driver control is great and responsive given the mechanical controls of early bimmers.

These engines are bullet proof literally. provided that they have normal timing belt changes (thats their weakness) with the 325E engines being bomb proof (iron block). If you're looking to do a turbo, buy an 325e, you'll see many e30 fanatics stroking and turboing the motor with close to 400hp and no problems. But seriously, I was so concerned with the reliability after the purchase that I opted to resurface the head and my machinst said I just pissed away money because there was nothing to be cleaned or resurfaced. compression was within factory specs. Doesn't burn a single drop of oil. My mech is an e30 specialist, he's driven m20 engines well over 500,000 miles before.

I did however get a new suspension, but i bought the stock one. I don't care what the other owners say, unless you're seriously tracking your car, the e30 "IS" suspension is all you need.

But seriously this is what I got essentially for $2000 relatively stock car.
  • Vintage car that is growing timeless and will soon reach the status of a 2002tii
  • A RWD car with great gas mileage and overall performance
  • car that weighs under 2900 lbs
  • 50/50 weight distribution (an e46 is more 52/48 distributed and that number will keep going off with newer models)
  • Sports suspension
  • Alloy wheels designed by BBS
  • Limited Slip differential 4.10
  • Mtech Steering wheel
  • 13 button on board computer that has more features than our current OBC
  • Pass code enabled startup
  • Sports seats - desighed by Recaro
... yes those are OEM factory parts that came standard on the car, I don't think BMW even includes anything that nice anymore for an entry level version of their 3 series anymore.

call me crazy, but this car was one of the main reasons why I sold my e46. All my part outs fund the restore of my e30

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Old 11-03-2010, 05:54 PM   #24
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:12 PM   #25
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I don't think E30 owners could care less that E46 owners think the cars are over priced... be prepared to pay between $1500 and $4000 for a nice one.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:14 PM   #26
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I paid 1,500 for a 325i coupe w/ sport interior, and lots of extra parts. got 180K on the clock. gonna rebuild it up, hopefully have a track car for under 6K.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:17 PM   #27
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MVRK, how is the engine running, with that many miles?
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:33 PM   #28
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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2038295084.html - eat your heart out
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:40 PM   #29
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I over paid for my E30. That was 8 years ago, and I've never regretted it. I still give it the look-back once a day.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:47 PM   #30
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MVRK, how is the engine running, with that many miles?
Engine runs perfectly pulls great. I am going to do a bunch of engine mods when I get around to it, but even as stock the car feels quicker than my e46 did. The best way to find out is to test drive it. It should pull hard all the way into the red. mine certainly does. Also 120mph is easy to hit, even if its not wise on crappy tires and blown suspension.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:46 PM   #31
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Roughly, how much does after market suspension cost for an E30?
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:30 AM   #32
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depends, anywhere from $100-$800. What's interesting is that the e30 M3 suspension is backwards compatible with any e30 except the IX e30. So if you want a sportier ride right off the bat, you can pay $300 for a complete m3 suspension (shocks, springs, swaybars, control arms, offset strut mounts)
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:44 AM   #33
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depends, anywhere from $100-$800. What's interesting is that the e30 M3 suspension is backwards compatible with any e30 except the IX e30. So if you want a sportier ride right off the bat, you can pay $300 for a complete m3 suspension (shocks, springs, swaybars, control arms, offset strut mounts)
Doubt you would find M3 suspension for less than $1300 here(OZ) or there(US). Ground Control definetely make the best bang for your buck coilover kit. Really though the options are endless.

E30's can become massive money pits as mentioned but if the money is spent right you can have yourself a great little car that you can beat on day in day out and it will last another 20 years. The problem with most people is they kill these cars to the point where everything needs to be changed and if you're not ready to diy, labour costs are a kick in the nuts. Your best bet is to check the said forums R3V or e30tech and look for something where the money has already been spent on general maintenance like timing belts, any or all rubber bits from cabs to shifter bushings and mounts. Better yet, something with a m50 or s50 swap.

I really like this one...http://e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99904

If you're interested in any of the e30tech cars, shoot me a PM and I'll get your details across to them because it could take a while if you try to join these days.

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Old 11-04-2010, 06:59 AM   #34
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Old 11-04-2010, 09:07 AM   #35
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I was referring to the stock m3 suspension that m3 sell for their cars when they upgrade their own. I've purchased used m3 springs from s14.net before for 50 bucks. ppl on e30tech and r3v have been running e30 m3 springs, shocks, and cab no problem. and yes there tends to be 2 different category of owners, one being the track junkie that beats the crap out of their e30 and the other treating them as a collectors item. Fortunately for me, the previous 2 owners of mine fell into the latter category. it was mechanically unmolested but that was probably because it started life with an auto transmission and the owners didn't think it was worth beating on.

edit: nice mtech 2 kit btw. my only complaint is that we didn't get this kit in the US unless you were a late model cabrio owner.

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Doubt you would find M3 suspension for less than $1300 here(OZ) or there(US). Ground Control definetely make the best bang for your buck coilover kit. Really though the options are endless.

E30's can become massive money pits as mentioned but if the money is spent right you can have yourself a great little car that you can beat on day in day out and it will last another 20 years. The problem with most people is they kill these cars to the point where everything needs to be changed and if you're not ready to diy, labour costs are a kick in the nuts. Your best bet is to check the said forums R3V or e30tech and look for something where the money has already been spent on general maintenance like timing belts, any or all rubber bits from cabs to shifter bushings and mounts. Better yet, something with a m50 or s50 swap.

I really like this one...http://e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99904

If you're interested in any of the e30tech cars, shoot me a PM and I'll get your details across to them because it could take a while if you try to join these days.

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Old 11-04-2010, 09:47 AM   #36
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An e30 M3 is the only car I would ever trade mine for. I would probably trade it straight up, too..
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I got my e30s for $841 and $200. So far I've dropped about $4k in the first one I bought and the second one is still sitting untouched (albeit cleaner) e30s are a disease. Good luck.

I'm in a side project LLC with a friend called RecycleBMWs, so far we've been specializing in e30s only. All these cars were purchased locally for under $1000.. including 2 325ix











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suspension varies considerably. I wanna goto the track, dont care about low so my plan is

Koni Adjustables - $500
GC coil kit (500F/750R) - $400
Cosmo camber plate - $130
Rouge RSM - $100

total $1130.
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Hi, just know the more you pay now..the less you will pay later.
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