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Old 11-16-2010, 09:24 AM   #1
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Dynotest Active Autowerke Stage II

Hi everyone,

After I made an installation the Stage II for a while, I just got the dynotest result.

Could you please see the attachmet files.

The sample of the VDO Clip


In my opinion,
1. Torque is dropped from 4,000-5,000 RPM (run on boost).
2. From the VDO Clip, the A/F Ratio (AEM Left gauge), when the engine run on boost, AF Ratio shown me 14-15. It should be 11-12.
Could you please advise me.

The specification of the car is as following;
- 323i
- Stroker Kit 3.0L
- Manual Transmission
- AA C38-71 Stage II (with intercooler kit)
- UUC Lightweight + Stage II Clutch Kit (Orgainc)
- Dr. Schrick Camshaft (FI Spec)
- Meth./Water Injection
- Supersprint Header
- Race Cat
- Eisemann Muffler (Race)

Please, comment the result.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:27 AM   #2
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This is the dynotest result.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:30 AM   #3
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Nice setup! You are running lean though and will need to send your ecu back to AA, your setup shouldn't be as low as 11-12 but high 12s to low 13s is alot healthier than 14-15 afr which are cruising afrs... You could lift your head so call AA and get another tune

Also are you making the full boost? IIRC it's 8.5psi? Seems like under 250whp is low, my 323 made 290 at 9psi with headers only...

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Old 11-16-2010, 09:58 AM   #4
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Nice setup! You are running lean though and will need to send your ecu back to AA, your setup shouldn't be as low as 11-12 but high 12s to low 13s is alot healthier than 14-15 afr which are cruising afrs... You could lift your head so call AA and get another tune

Also are you making the full boost? IIRC it's 8.5psi? Seems like under 250whp is low, my 323 made 290 at 9psi with headers only...
10.5 psi, sir
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:40 AM   #5
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i think that the numbers may be due to a damaged motor. I'm shocked if you can be on boost, with such intense load and such lean conditions and not blow anything up. When you're lean like that, don't finish the pull, let off. Clutch pedal in, neutral.
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i think that the numbers may be due to a damaged motor. I'm shocked if you can be on boost, with such intense load and such lean conditions and not blow anything up. When you're lean like that, don't finish the pull, let off. Clutch pedal in, neutral.
Thank you.

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Old 11-16-2010, 10:46 AM   #8
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My observation when I run 5th gear, A/F ratio shown me 11-12 (on boost until redline). But when I run on dynotest, I dont know why A/F Ratio show me these number (dynotest run 4th gear).
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10.5 psi should make way more then that I would say 300 with the mods you have... have you done a compression test on the motor? so your making full 10.5 boost correct cant tell by the video it seems you have 2 AFR guages?

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Old 11-16-2010, 02:45 PM   #10
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Awesome Video Yeah, if you could please send me your current file on that you are running that way we could have it modified. This vehicle was custom project which was a 323 stroked out to a 3.0 and has been modified inside and out.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:27 PM   #11
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10.5 psi should make way more then that I would say 300 with the mods you have... have you done a compression test on the motor? so your making full 10.5 boost correct cant tell by the video it seems you have 2 AFR guages?
Actually, the dynotest provider is diferent from Mustang in USA. I saw SL55AMG test, it got only 350 hp (correct power), although the stock is claimed 380 hp.
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Awesome Video Yeah, if you could please send me your current file on that you are running that way we could have it modified. This vehicle was custom project which was a 323 stroked out to a 3.0 and has been modified inside and out.
Thank you, my master.
I sent you my lastest file. Could you please check your inbox.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:44 PM   #13
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Yea, this definitely has to be fixed.
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This is similar to the setup I am contemplating doing instead of a regular HKS , except I would stroke out or swap the m54b25 to 3.0. I want to know if I can run a c38 kit on my b25 and convert to 3.0 spec later? OP is this what you did? My b25 feels abnormally strong at 100k and I think it would be a waste to swap until it needs work. Hopefully you get it working so I will be able to confidently purchase a kit!
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Thank you, my master.
I sent you my lastest file. Could you please check your inbox.
Good luck I went through exactly the same thing with my 330 level 2 kit and in after much time / expense / frustration I just decided to settle with 8.5 psi as it runs almost as smooth as stock which is more important to me than outright power.

Do you have an AFR plot?
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Yea, this definitely has to be fixed.
I am still waiting for Active Autowerke's reply for the optimized program.

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This is similar to the setup I am contemplating doing instead of a regular HKS , except I would stroke out or swap the m54b25 to 3.0. I want to know if I can run a c38 kit on my b25 and convert to 3.0 spec later? OP is this what you did? My b25 feels abnormally strong at 100k and I think it would be a waste to swap until it needs work. Hopefully you get it working so I will be able to confidently purchase a kit!
I think Viral@Active will give you suggestion.

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Good luck I went through exactly the same thing with my 330 level 2 kit and in after much time / expense / frustration I just decided to settle with 8.5 psi as it runs almost as smooth as stock which is more important to me than outright power.

Do you have an AFR plot?
Sorry, the dynotest provider in my country is not have the AFR plot.
You means now you are run with 100mm pulley, right?
Please, advise me about the Quaife LSD, I just bought it from HP Autowerke?
The diff is 3.07, I think Quaife P/N is 14N.
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Yeah I am running the 100mm pulley - I am pleased with how smooth, powerful and trouble free it is in this configuration.

The Quaife is a great addition, traction is much improved in all situations - you will love it!

Are you running a complete 330 engine (intake manifold etc)?
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Yeah I am running the 100mm pulley - I am pleased with how smooth, powerful and trouble free it is in this configuration.

The Quaife is a great addition, traction is much improved in all situations - you will love it!

Are you running a complete 330 engine (intake manifold etc)?


My engine is M52TUB24, modified 3.0L stroker kit. The compression ratio is same as M54B30. Camshafts are from Dr. Schrick 248/254. My future plan is Manifold swap from M52TUB24 to M54B30 (only manifold). I have read one forum about Manifold Swapped for a while, I think it is very interesting.

Now, I will wait for Viral reply me back about the new program and re-run dynotest.

No any modifications when you make LSD installation, right??? and please, advise me any parts should be changed and maintainance???

Thank you for your kindly advise.
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I have no other mods to the rear axle other than the LSD but my plan is to reinforce the subframe and install poly bushings at some point.

You could add Z4 finned diff cover if you plan on tracking it.
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Awesome Video Yeah, if you could please send me your current file on that you are running that way we could have it modified. This vehicle was custom project which was a 323 stroked out to a 3.0 and has been modified inside and out.
Hello Viral,

Any information updated for my car???

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