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The E46 XI was produced from 01-05 in sedan and touring body styles. Powered by either a 2.5L inline 6 in the 325xi or a 3.0L inline 6 330xi. Discuss all thing about BMW AWD E46 'Xi' here.

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Old 09-07-2009, 09:34 AM   #1
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My XI shocks springs are too stiff? Recomendations?

About a year ago, I swapped out the suspension in my wife's 2004 325xi. I wanted to slightly lower the car and slightly stiffen the suspension.

I put in H&R Sport springs and Koni yellows (both for the XI). The ride is waaaaay to stiff. I have the Koni / H&R sport combo in my 325i and it's not nearly as firm (even with the shocks on the looses setting).

Looking for recommendations for a softer setup. I am close to going back to stock on this.

Remember, this is my wife's car... She doesn't need coilovers, or anything crazy, so please keep that in mind with your recomendation.

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Old 09-07-2009, 09:53 AM   #2
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I'm also interested in the answer to this, as i was about to go for Bilstein Yellow shocks and Eibach sport springs. I want to drop/stiffen a little, but not crazyily hard.
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i have the H&R cup kit and its not too stiff but handles really well even with over 50000 miles on the kit
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:16 AM   #4
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i have the H&R cup kit and its not too stiff but handles really well even with over 50000 miles on the kit
do you even have an XI? This is an XI only thread
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:05 AM   #5
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do you even have an XI? This is an XI only thread
Agreed. Keep this thread limited to folks who have an xi or know what they are talking about. There is no cupkit made for an xi.

My advice is to try Eibach springs and reset Konis to their softest setting. It would probably be too soft for me but may work well for your wife. Alternatively, check the Konis and change setting to softest level with current springs. This may work too, but I suspect that the H&R springs are the primary culprit regarding the harsh ride. Can't figure out why it took a year for you to figure out that the ride was too harsh. If it was not initially too harsh you may have other suspension issues like bad bushings.

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Old 09-07-2009, 12:00 PM   #6
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Doesn't bombguy have an XI. Steve, maybe he might have some info for you.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:20 PM   #7
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Agreed. Keep this thread limited to folks who have an xi or know what they are talking about. There is no cupkit made for an xi.

My advice is to try Eibach springs and reset Konis to their softest setting. It would probably be too soft for me but may work well for your wife. Alternatively, check the Konis and change setting to softest level with current springs. This may work too, but I suspect that the H&R springs are the primary culprit regarding the harsh ride. Can't figure out why it took a year for you to figure out that the ride was too harsh. If it was not initially too harsh you may have other suspension issues like bad bushings.

The Konis are already set to the softest setting...

Its been too harsh ever since they went on... I've been too busy / lazy to deal with it though...
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Wow. Konis at their soft setting are almost univerally condemned as being way too soft. Most guys set them some where toward the middle of their adjustment range and even some of them think its too soft. Assuming the shocks are not defective and there is no other serious problems with the suspension, the only thing I can think of then is going to an Eibach spring. Hopefully, someone on here with far more experience than me can give you a more qualified opinion.

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Old 09-07-2009, 08:12 PM   #9
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:22 PM   #10
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I have konis and H&Rs on my '01 330xi and it's very stiff too. I keep them dialed to their softest and I can still compress my organs when hitting expansion joints and whatnot. Not really sure why I went with adjustables when I have to keep them at the softest setting. I was thinking about switching to Eibachs just to see if it helps, or maybe see if its a bumpstop issue or something. At this point I'm guessing coilovers would have a more gentle setting somewhere in their range.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:40 PM   #11
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hell no... trust me, i have a set of h & r coil overs... they are the harshest things i think i could have picked for my setup. if i could do it again, i would definitely not go with any coil overs. they are mostly for tracking, not every dd'ng.

sorry, i didn't see that part about 'settings'... as the h & r ones don't have any settings. just one, waaay tooo harsh. just stay clear of the h & r ones and you might be okay.
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I have stock shocks on my H&R springs and I think the ride is too stiff...interested to see the results here.

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The Konis are already set to the softest setting...

Its been too harsh ever since they went on... I've been too busy / lazy to deal with it though...

Put a dice unit in there that will fix it sorry had to do it!!!!


It may be the springs it may be the valveing of the shocks. Do you happen to know the spring rate of the springs used?
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Put a dice unit in there that will fix it sorry had to do it!!!!


It may be the springs it may be the valveing of the shocks. Do you happen to know the spring rate of the springs used?

Doesn't seem to have any info on it on H&R's page:
http://hrsprings.com/scripts/appguid...MW%20|%20325Xi

Does anyone have the Konis with Eibach springs for an XI?
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do you even have an XI? This is an XI only thread
Yeah it's next to impossible to get an xi thread going around here. We need an xi forum.

Sna77- Have you considered Dinan springs? The only people that seem to be content with the ride on their xi aftermarket suspension are the guys who coughed up the dough for the Dinan kit.

I don't want Koni shocks (revalved or not), which is why I haven't pulled the trigger on the Dinan kit.
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Just saw this . . .

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If you want an excellent set that matches comfort and performance, try the Koni FSD / Eiback Pro combo. Just got it installed and it IS phenominal!

Not sure if they have it for the xi though...
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Yeah it's next to impossible to get an xi thread going around here. We need an xi forum.

Sna77- Have you considered Dinan springs? The only people that seem to be content with the ride on their xi aftermarket suspension are the guys who coughed up the dough for the Dinan kit.

I don't want Koni shocks (revalved or not), which is why I haven't pulled the trigger on the Dinan kit.

Doesn't the Dinan kit use H&Rs for the springs (and obv Konis for the shocks)?

If not, can you even buy just the Dinan springs?
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Doesn't the Dinan kit use H&Rs for the springs (and obv Konis for the shocks)?

If not, can you even buy just the Dinan springs?
They my use HR for a manufactor but i am sure the spring rate is speced by them. You may also want to look and see if you can find a progressive rate spring that may help with some of the small stoke softness. I knowI deal with shock sand springs alot of my Race sleds and we are always playing with things.


OF course I play with 2000K shocks on my stuff!!!

(notice the lack of springs on the front end
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Bump for more responses. C'mon xi guys, lets not let this thread fade away like so many others w/o coming up with some helpful advice for the OP. Surely, some of you have tried spring and shock combos that gave you both an acceptable ride and increased performance handling. Let us know what you did and how it worked for you.
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I am about to toss my OEM springs onto my Konis... That would at least tell me if it is the shocks or springs that are the culprit... My mechanic thinks its the shocks FWIW
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