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Old 11-21-2010, 10:38 PM   #1
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Speeding ticket in North Carolina

Hi everyone,

Today I got a speeding ticket in Johnson County NC for 86 in a 70. I passed the cop (who at the time was giving a ticket to another motorist) and my Valentine One didn't even beep. About 10 minutes later, to my surprise, the same police car was behind me with the lights on. I was stunned and totally caught off guard by this ticket. The cop said he "clocked me at 86" and I'm sortof confused as to how he could (A) clock me at 86 without my radar detector beeping, the same detector that can detect a sliding door from a mile away, and (B) how he clocked me at this speed while he was processing another ticket.

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with attorneys in the Johnson County (Smithfield) area, or any further advice on speeding tickets of this magnitude in North Carolina or elsewhere.

Also, over 2 years ago I was cited for speeding (54 in a 45) and received a PFJ. Will this be revoked?

Thanks in advance
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:05 PM   #2
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something tells me that "My radar detector never went off" isn't going to work as a defense.
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:36 PM   #3
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PFJ should have ran its course in two years...so you SHOULD be good there.

I think it sounds like BS, but if you were doing 86 and he wrote you a ticket for 86...then just man up.
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:38 PM   #4
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something tells me that "My radar detector never went off" isn't going to work as a defense.
Well obviously it won't, which is why I'm asking for advice.
Just thought I would indicate that as an interesting bit of information.
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:24 AM   #5
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Contact a lawyer. I'm not sure if it's like this in all countys in NC. When I was stationed at Pope AFB I got caught doinr 75 in a 55 and had an ass ton of lawyers send me there buisness info in the mail. choose one and they'll pretty much pay off your ticket for you with a "prayer for judgment case" Pretty much saying you won't get a ticket for 3yrs or you get double the fines and points taken of your record. If the judge accepts the PFJ case no point's against your record till you get another ticket. 5 yrs ago it cost me about $350.00
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:28 AM   #6
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Contact a lawyer. I'm not sure if it's like this in all countys in NC. When I was stationed at Pope AFB I got caught doinr 75 in a 55 and had an ass ton of lawyers send me there buisness info in the mail. choose one and they'll pretty much pay off your ticket for you with a "prayer for judgment case" Pretty much saying you won't get a ticket for 3yrs or you get double the fines and points taken of your record. If the judge accepts the PFJ case no point's against your record till you get another ticket. 5 yrs ago it cost me about $350.00
Do this.

Do you know whether he got you with laser or radar?

I suspect laser.

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Old 11-22-2010, 06:40 AM   #7
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It could have been a 2 cop team.

Ive seen them on 85 and 77....one cop will sit and peg drivers, then radio the ticketing officer.....was it a local or state trooper? (state troopers mostly use lasers)
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It could have been a 2 cop team.

Ive seen them on 85 and 77....one cop will sit and peg drivers, then radio the ticketing officer.....was it a local or state trooper? (state troopers mostly use lasers)
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:04 AM   #9
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Cops in NC can't use laser as their evidence, it's all done by feel. I highly recommend Marcus Hill, he is expensive but you will get off.
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:35 AM   #10
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Yup as Drew said it was most likely a two man team. It happens a lot around here mostly with motorcycle cops who will have squad cars later down the road. Just get yourself a good lawyer and good luck.
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Sounds like the old stopwatch method. They time you passing known positions and calculate.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:32 AM   #12
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first time my buddy had seen a two man operation he goes "what the hell is that crown vic doin up in the sticks, what's he gonna do? go dukes of hazard on me and plow through the bush?" I said na theres probably another one on at the next on ramp. low and behold my man had already started rolling by the time were were bout to pass. My buddy was like "hats off to you guys that was clever, I would have never expected it" got to chatting with the cop about how effective it was and how "if I were in my pro charged Stang GT w/ 601RWHP, it didnt' matter how much of a roll you got you better radio two miles ahead!" cop laughed it off and said, well how bout this, I'll give you a warning, see you here same time tomorrow, bring that pro-charged stang, I'll snag the Hemi charger and we'll have a little fun with this. Damn cool cop, friend was only doin 76 in a 65, only car on the rd.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:38 AM   #13
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Hi everyone,

Today I got a speeding ticket in Johnson County NC for 86 in a 70. I passed the cop (who at the time was giving a ticket to another motorist) and my Valentine One didn't even beep. About 10 minutes later, to my surprise, the same police car was behind me with the lights on. I was stunned and totally caught off guard by this ticket. The cop said he "clocked me at 86" and I'm sortof confused as to how he could (A) clock me at 86 without my radar detector beeping, the same detector that can detect a sliding door from a mile away, and (B) how he clocked me at this speed while he was processing another ticket.

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with attorneys in the Johnson County (Smithfield) area, or any further advice on speeding tickets of this magnitude in North Carolina or elsewhere.

Also, over 2 years ago I was cited for speeding (54 in a 45) and received a PFJ. Will this be revoked?

Thanks in advance
well how fast were you going? if you were going 86, then obviously he got you somehow. it wasn't a guess.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:03 AM   #14
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PFJ should have ran its course in two years...so you SHOULD be good there.

I think it sounds like BS, but if you were doing 86 and he wrote you a ticket for 86...then just man up.
PFJ runs from when the court date happened, not when the citation was issued. When was your court date. If it was less than 3 years ago, you are screwed.

And it's every 3 years, not 2 in NC for how long you MUST have a clean record to have a valid PJC.

N.C.G.S. 58-36-75(f).

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/enactedl..._58-36-75.html
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Hi everyone,

Today I got a speeding ticket in Johnson County NC for 86 in a 70. I passed the cop (who at the time was giving a ticket to another motorist) and my Valentine One didn't even beep. About 10 minutes later, to my surprise, the same police car was behind me with the lights on. I was stunned and totally caught off guard by this ticket. The cop said he "clocked me at 86" and I'm sortof confused as to how he could (A) clock me at 86 without my radar detector beeping, the same detector that can detect a sliding door from a mile away, and (B) how he clocked me at this speed while he was processing another ticket.

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with attorneys in the Johnson County (Smithfield) area, or any further advice on speeding tickets of this magnitude in North Carolina or elsewhere.

Also, over 2 years ago I was cited for speeding (54 in a 45) and received a PFJ. Will this be revoked?

Thanks in advance
I just paid it. I live in NY so there was no way I was driving back to court.
Same as you it was where the limit abruptly drops from 70 to 65 and I was still going 75. cop was literally right under the sign.
Ticket was $30. Court Fee on the ticket was $121!

Ridiculous!
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I just paid it. I live in NY so there was no way I was driving back to court.
Same as you it was where the limit abruptly drops from 70 to 65 and I was still going 75. cop was literally right under the sign.
Ticket was $30. Court Fee on the ticket was $121!

Ridiculous!
Court Costs and "admin fees" are always where they get you in NC. Ticket is normally 25% to only 50% of the actual "price".
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:08 AM   #17
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well how fast were you going? if you were going 86, then obviously he got you somehow. it wasn't a guess.
I was at the tail end of a group of 3 or so cars with my cruise control on maybe a half a speedometer-needle width over 80, so certainly I was going 82, not sure where the other 4mph came from...

The ticket indicates "R86M" which I can only assume means "radar 86 mph misdemeanor"
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:10 AM   #18
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It could have been a 2 cop team.

Ive seen them on 85 and 77....one cop will sit and peg drivers, then radio the ticketing officer.....was it a local or state trooper? (state troopers mostly use lasers)
It was a state trooper on 40 just east of the Raleigh area.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:13 AM   #19
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PFJ runs from when the court date happened, not when the citation was issued. When was your court date. If it was less than 3 years ago, you are screwed.

And it's every 3 years, not 2 in NC for how long you MUST have a clean record to have a valid PJC.

N.C.G.S. 58-36-75(f).

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/enactedl..._58-36-75.html
I never actually had a court date for my last ticket-- I took some 5 hour driving safety class and it seemed to cancel out my requirement to go to court. This class was just over 2 years ago as well.
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I never actually had a court date for my last ticket-- I took some 5 hour driving safety class and it seemed to cancel out my requirement to go to court. This class was just over 2 years ago as well.
Did you plea nolo contendre (no contest) ... by you taking the class it sounds like you pleaded down. That would be why there was no court date. Either way, you are screwed. Your PJC is cancelled.
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