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Old 12-21-2010, 01:02 AM   #1
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Subframe Reinforcement Template

Does anyone have a subframe reinforcement kit that they bought that they could trace and scan in order to provide a template to make your own? Maybe include the gauge or thickness of the metal and dimensions. I can't understand why $10 of steel costs $150. Or if anyone in Wisconsin bought a kit and would let me trace it that would be great. Or does anyone know where a kit could be bought for a reasonable price. Thanks
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I can't understand why $10 of steel costs $150. Thanks
The cost to build a Die in relation to the production run determines the cost of produced parts.

Ask me how I know.
How many do you think they sold/made?

Or did you think they had people cut out every plate by hand.

No need to make templates, just fab the plates yourself(when the car is up in the air and the subframe off, bend the plates with a hammer around the area needed) if you dont want to spend the money, BUT I assure you, you'll regret it and wish you'd buy a kit. Thats why I bought a kit.

I cant remember the thickness of the plates, but they are not thick at all.
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Just buy the kit. It's wrong to say someone else's product is not worth what they're charging. Did ever account for the R&D that they put into it? Sometimes something that looks simple might not have been so simple to create.

If $150 is beyond your budget, then rather than reverse engineering someone else's product, make your own.
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:18 AM   #4
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I hope you're cutting and bending everything yourself or having a friend do it for a low cost. If not, you might want to just buy the $150 kit.

*And don't blatantly copy someone elses work. Look at some pictures to understand the design/placement and get under your car and make your own measurements.

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Old 12-21-2010, 11:29 AM   #5
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I can't understand why $10 of steel costs $150.
The same reason why an "improved" dip stick guide tube (p/n: 11437565437 from SIB 110803: http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B110803g.htm) costs $150 (or more) versus the old style dip stick guide tube (p/n: 11437531258) at $40.

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Old 12-21-2010, 01:14 PM   #6
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The same reason why an "improved" dip stick guide tube (p/n: 11437565437 from SIB 110803: http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B110803g.htm) costs $150 (or more) versus the old style dip stick guide tube (p/n: 11437531258) at $40.

Oh my that's not right.

I've only seen Turner's kit. Does anyone else sell these, are some better than others? I think I'll probably end up buying a kit.

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Old 12-21-2010, 01:56 PM   #7
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If you're anywhere near Madison, take it to KellyMoss Motorsports. That's where I had my Turner kits installed. They did a great job and even without a kit, they are master fabricators and could easily do the work.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:21 AM   #8
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If you're anywhere near Madison, take it to KellyMoss Motorsports. That's where I had my Turner kits installed. They did a great job and even without a kit, they are master fabricators and could easily do the work.
Thanks, it's nice to know where good independent shops are!

Active Autowerke says their kit is made of 16 gauge steel, TMS is made of 14 gauge steel. Does anyone know the gauge steel that the body work is? I want to brush up on my welding skills on some appropriate scrap before I do this.
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