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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 01-28-2011, 01:06 AM   #1
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Need an oil change, know I need 10W60 oil...but only Castrol>?

Well its time for an oil change in my ///M3, I know the car requires 5.8 quarts of synthetic 10W60 oil and BMW calls for Castrol brand, however, are other brand up to par with Castrol? I am searching online to get the best deal on oil and see Redline brand 10W60 oil is quite a bit cheaper than Castrol (about $10/q vs $14/q). I am also seeing brands such as GT1 and Greddy GR-1 oil...however those I have not heard much about or seen so I may stay away from those, however Redline is a pretty common brand so I would trust their product more.

Also, does anyone have any leads to getting oil at an even cheaper rate? I am on Ebay now searching and so far about $10/q seems to be cheapest.

Last question, what type of filter do I need? Is it brand specific or can I use any generic one aslong as it claims for E46 BMW M3?

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Old 01-28-2011, 02:28 AM   #2
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Any brand of 10w60 synthetic will work...BMW just recommends castrol that's it...the redline brand that you mentioned is not the cheapest brand out there..like theres also brands like greddy, lubro, motorex, and royal purple out there..all ranging from $9 & up.. I'll personally go with mobil1 or just keep it all castrol...either or..nothing else comes close.. Special oil for that special 3.2 under the hood...you treat her good.. She'll treat you good..and note that these 10/60 oils arent really found in stores...online is a good place to get em..but after shipping and handling..It's pretty much the same getting the original castrol at the dealership. Oil filters on these cars should be just as special... Stick with factory or mobil1...but all really.. its just preferences..love it a lot to take Hella good care of it with the good **** or just be like oh wellz..it'll do..fvk it!! Personally I say these cars deserve the love....
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Old 01-28-2011, 02:29 AM   #3
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If you get the Mahle filter it's essentially the same as BMW minus the logo. Mann will also work (they're apparently both OEM) but their filter is greener -- no metal caps. The function is the same however.
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Old 01-28-2011, 02:51 AM   #4
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...and the life span on these oils run for a long time.. So basically it pays itself off in the long run.. All well worth it!
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:40 AM   #5
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The only oil I'd use other than OEM is liqui moly.
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Old 01-28-2011, 05:46 AM   #6
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Wait... why hasn't anyone mentioned LL-01 spec oils to this fella?

http://www.bimmerfest.com/wiki/index...46#Oil_service
Put LL-01 oils in a M and see what happens
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Old 01-28-2011, 05:52 AM   #7
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I personally change my Castrol 10W60 every 7500 miles so I don't take advantage of the 'extended wear' promise. If you don't use Castrol, I suggest you make sure that the alternative has extended wear abilites/additives if you go the 15K change route.
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Old 01-28-2011, 05:56 AM   #8
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I'm running the lubromoly in mine...engine seems happy. It can be had for $40-45/5 liters, vs $12-13 for 1 liter of Castrol. A shop around the corner from my house stocks the stuff.

The PO must have stuck to the factory recommended OCI, because the top end looks a bit nasty. I'm going to change it frequently for the next 10k and see if that cleans things up.
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I'm suprised no one has suggested Turner Motorsports oil change kit! Or even better...look how cheap Lubromoly is on ECS! http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-.../Oil/ES248959/
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Put LL-01 oils in a M and see what happens
My bad.

LL-01 does not apply to the M's 10w-60 viscosity. :o
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Old 01-28-2011, 01:50 PM   #11
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Ahhhh, another oil thread.

The biggest question is this: why wouldn't you use the Castrol TWS (10W60)? The other "alternatives, really are not much cheaper, if at all. Call a dealer or 2 in your area, I bought 7 litres of TWS for my car (yes, 1 spare) for roughly $10 a bottle. You want to risk another brand to save 5-6 bucks? Why? 8,200 RPM redline--what do you think makes that possible, "the force?"

This was a premiere, top of the line luxury sports car when new, now that they are 10 years old and cheaper to buy, people think they can treat 'em like a Civic. The reason they are cheap to buy now....THEY COST $$$ TO MAINTAIN. You want to play BMW, you got to pay BMW.
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I found Total Lubrications 10w-50 is M rated, and is $6.99 a quart... Just saying.

Edit: You may know them as Elf, like in F1... They dropped the Elf name in America...
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Ahhhh, another oil thread.

The biggest question is this: why wouldn't you use the Castrol TWS (10W60)? The other "alternatives, really are not much cheaper, if at all. Call a dealer or 2 in your area, I bought 7 litres of TWS for my car (yes, 1 spare) for roughly $10 a bottle. You want to risk another brand to save 5-6 bucks? Why? 8,200 RPM redline--what do you think makes that possible, "the force?"

This was a premiere, top of the line luxury sports car when new, now that they are 10 years old and cheaper to buy, people think they can treat 'em like a Civic. The reason they are cheap to buy now....THEY COST $$$ TO MAINTAIN. You want to play BMW, you got to pay BMW.
....I agree...it costs to floss! If you ain't going hard in your ///M3 then go home.. And stay home..... (Being soft behind wheel if the ///M is absurd). Stick with the good shi*t and go hard.
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Old 01-28-2011, 05:45 PM   #14
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I'm suprised no one has suggested Turner Motorsports oil change kit! Or even better...look how cheap Lubromoly is on ECS! http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-M3-.../Oil/ES248959/

I did see that brand oil, I referred to it as GT1. This brand is up to standard?

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Ahhhh, another oil thread.

The biggest question is this: why wouldn't you use the Castrol TWS (10W60)? The other "alternatives, really are not much cheaper, if at all. Call a dealer or 2 in your area, I bought 7 litres of TWS for my car (yes, 1 spare) for roughly $10 a bottle. You want to risk another brand to save 5-6 bucks? Why? 8,200 RPM redline--what do you think makes that possible, "the force?"

This was a premiere, top of the line luxury sports car when new, now that they are 10 years old and cheaper to buy, people think they can treat 'em like a Civic. The reason they are cheap to buy now....THEY COST $$$ TO MAINTAIN. You want to play BMW, you got to pay BMW.
I didnt say I will not use Castrol, I asked if any other brands were up to par before I made a mistake and bought a cheaper brand that may not be as good. My car is not treated like a Civic, not one bit. Again, just researching before making any mistakes! That should be a good thing I asked before I went out and bought...
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My bad.

LL-01 does not apply to the M's 10w-60 viscosity. :o
dude...i think your lost.. need a GPS to locate yourself? I got one up for barrows if you need... (///M3 Forum? aint it?) Pick one up then talk.
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dude...i think your lost.. need a GPS to locate yourself? I got one up for barrows if you need... (///M3 Forum? aint it?) Pick one up then talk.
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http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=295656

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Bavarian Autosport sells the Liqui Moly Race Tech GT1 10w60 for $39.95 for 5 liters. Free shipping if you order 4. Only $11.95 to have two containers shipped to the west coast. I am considering trying this oil. I called 2 dealerships in LV for the Castrol TWS. One was $16.50 a liter and the other was $12.50. Does anyone know somewhere along I 5 between Sacramento CA and Bellingham WA where it's cheaper than that ?
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Bavarian Autosport sells the Liqui Moly Race Tech GT1 10w60 for $39.95 for 5 liters. Free shipping if you order 4. Only $11.95 to west coast. I am considering trying this oil. I called 2 dealerships in LV for the Castrol TWS. One was $16.50 a liter and the other was $12.50. Does anyone know somewhere along I 5 between Sacramento CA and Bellingham WA where it's cheaper than that ?
$12.50 is the cheapest Ive seen without having to pay for shipping
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$12.50 is the cheapest Ive seen without having to pay for shipping
So that's $60 for 5 liters of Castrol compared to $40 for the Liqui Moly.That adds up after a few oil changes. But if the oil sucks it could cost you more than that. I am in Canada and last time I checked a liter at the dealership here was $18. Oil change at the shop was $220. Anyone here using the Liqui Moly Race Tech GT1 ?

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