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Old 10-20-2011, 02:08 PM   #241
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Piston upper with the adams arms piston system. It doesn't meet your length requirements but it's worth looking into. there is another company out there that isn't a huge name that also uses the adams arms system. starts with a U IIRC. take a look. I have this upper and it runs flawlessly.
Several systems run the Adams Arms setup. Fleet Farm has a rifle brand called Huldra that runs the AA.


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Supposedly getting a free night force scope next week hopefully it doesn't fall through
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Old 10-20-2011, 02:26 PM   #242
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Several systems run the Adams Arms setup. Fleet Farm has a rifle brand called Huldra that runs the AA.




Holy crap...
I'm just hoping the quality of my build will match the scope. I'm happy with all my parts. But he said he wouldn't take a $1 for the scope and he was pretty sure it was night force(he said he paid over $2k for it). Guess I'll hopefully find out soon Then I'll get my build underway!
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:41 PM   #243
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I'm REALLY considering a 6.8SPC upper. Any input from you guys? I want an AR10, but don't want to spend so much $, so I figure a 6.8SPC upper is a good compromise...
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:31 PM   #244
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I'm REALLY considering a 6.8SPC upper. Any input from you guys? I want an AR10, but don't want to spend so much $, so I figure a 6.8SPC upper is a good compromise...
AR10 and LR308 platforms are more expensive for start-up costs if you buy a more high-end or precision setup, but the cost eventually winds up in favor of .308 when you compare it to the 6.8SPC. 6.8SPC ammunition is EXPENSIVE. The cheapest 6.8SPC ammo I can find is $17.99 for a box of 20rds. The cheapest .308 is around $8.99/20rd box.
6.8SPC is a good all-around cartridge from SBRs at close range to about 500yds, but it was developed and then it appears to have become obsolete. For close-range work, the .300AAC Blackout is the new "it" cartridge. For mid-range, the 5.56mm in the match loads are doing very well. The long range is dominated by the .308.
It's rather unfortunate, because the 6.8SPC is a good cartridge. The problem is that nobody really picked it up and went running with it for mass production for training and combat use. Silver State Armory did, but they're still charging WAY too much for it. The .300AAC Blackout will ultimately be less expensive and more widely available once production is in full swing. I honestly think the .300AAC is going to kill the 6.8SPC.

I would HIGHLY recommend taking a second look at a .308 AR. Armalite AR-10s are nice and very reasonably priced. There are a decent number of options and accessories for both the AR-10 and LR308 (DPMS) platform.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:44 PM   #245
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Did get my LaRue/Harris bipod combo in the mail yesterday. Seems extremely well put together and solid. Also the dillo rub is awesome, and like the tactical beverage opener haha. Very fast shipping from LaRue too. Will probably order an SPR mount from them too if I need a mount for my scope.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:18 PM   #246
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Did get my LaRue/Harris bipod combo in the mail yesterday. Seems extremely well put together and solid. Also the dillo rub is awesome, and like the tactical beverage opener haha. Very fast shipping from LaRue too. Will probably order an SPR mount from them too if I need a mount for my scope.
Jumped to conclusion at first glance....
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Old 10-20-2011, 09:11 PM   #247
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Did get my LaRue/Harris bipod combo in the mail yesterday. Seems extremely well put together and solid. Also the dillo rub is awesome, and like the tactical beverage opener haha. Very fast shipping from LaRue too. Will probably order an SPR mount from them too if I need a mount for my scope.
LaRue is one of my FAVORITE manufacturers. Their stuff is top notch.

Nice work on the HARRIS bipod
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Did get my LaRue/Harris bipod combo in the mail yesterday. Seems extremely well put together and solid. Also the dillo rub is awesome, and like the tactical beverage opener haha. Very fast shipping from LaRue too. Will probably order an SPR mount from them too if I need a mount for my scope.
What model number did you get? Was it the bipod and the mount, or the modified bipod with the integrated LT mount?
I have been looking at getting the Harris BR-S/LT706 combo with the integrated mount.
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What model number did you get? Was it the bipod and the mount, or the modified bipod with the integrated LT mount?
I have been looking at getting the Harris BR-S/LT706 combo with the integrated mount.
I got the combo with integrated mount.
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What trigger set ups are you using? Stock break for the S&W is around 5-6 if I remember correctly. I was looking for something maybe around 4.5-4 lb break. Also are they hard to install or is this something left for the gunsmith?
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What trigger set ups are you using? Stock break for the S&W is around 5-6 if I remember correctly. I was looking for something maybe around 4.5-4 lb break. Also are they hard to install or is this something left for the gunsmith?
I'm going with spikes single stage combat trigger, jp springs, drop in trigger adjuster from brownells and having a gunsmith install/tinker with it. Should be 3-4lb pull when done
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I'm going with spikes single stage combat trigger, jp springs, drop in trigger adjuster from brownells and having a gunsmith install/tinker with it. Should be 3-4lb pull when done
Know Spikes makes pretty good stuff, but haven't really seen anyone opt for it. Seems a lot of people are going with rock river arms or Geissele.
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Know Spikes makes pretty good stuff, but haven't really seen anyone opt for it. Seems a lot of people are going with rock river arms or Geissele.
I decided against a 2 stage trigger at first, but can always change later. My friend (gunsmith) told me he could make me have an awesome trigger with those parts. It's going to take some work, but he said I would be extremely happy with the outcome so I'll trust him. The Spikes trigger also was included in the lower parts kit I got.
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I run mil-spec for my two SBRs. Mil spec triggers will be anywhere from 5-9lbs, but most I've tested with a scale have been around 7lbs. For my 18" SPR, I did a JP Rifles adjustable JP Trigger, which is a single stage setup that is adjustable for creep and over-travel. The trigger breaks cleanly at 3.5lbs on the nose. For a precision rifle, that's around the ideal weight.
For my next build, which will likely be a 16" DMR setup, I will be using the Geissele Super Dynamic - Combat.

Triggers are incredibly easy to install. You just need a punch to push out the pins in your lower receiver. There are videos galore on YouTube on how to do it.

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Old 10-24-2011, 11:26 AM   #255
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Holy crap...
Huldra was it. The huldra upper is actually cheaper that the S&W. I'm not sure which one is actually higher quality though.

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What trigger set ups are you using? Stock break for the S&W is around 5-6 if I remember correctly. I was looking for something maybe around 4.5-4 lb break. Also are they hard to install or is this something left for the gunsmith?
I believe the trigger pull on the smiths are about 5 or 6. I've never measured mine but I have shot others that have a much lighter trigger break. Personally i like the heavier triggers but appreciate the lighter ones as well.
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Going to mount a comp m4 to my ar. I want to be ale to shoot further accurately. Should I go with the 3x magnifier in larue mount. Or pick up a nikon m223 3-12 and qd mount and swap between optics quickly?
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Going to mount a comp m4 to my ar. I want to be ale to shoot further accurately. Should I go with the 3x magnifier in larue mount. Or pick up a nikon m223 3-12 and qd mount and swap between optics quickly?
Personally, Ithink if you want to shoot off a 3x - why don't you consider a magnified optic? An ACOG for that matter.
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Personally, Ithink if you want to shoot off a 3x - why don't you consider a magnified optic? An ACOG for that matter.
I was given the comp m4 as a gift, or I would have bought a magnified scope, still might.
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I was given the comp m4 as a gift, or I would have bought a magnified scope, still might.
A magnified Comp M4 will do just fine, it will be nice to switch between 1x and 3x quickly. Especially since you got it as a gift, go ahead and pick up a LaRue QD flip to side.
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I would get the 3x magnifier for now. Use that and get used to it. Then, down the line when you get an SBR, you can transfer the CompM4 to the SBR and put a scope on the rifle you currently have.
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