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Old 12-11-2012, 12:29 PM   #1541
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Thank you for all of your help fellas. I decided to grab a M&P 15-S, it'll be here before Christmas hopefully. Every price for this gun was $700 and up on any other site, so this deal is pretty good.

Now, should I go long optics, or mid-length. I won't be in combat with it, so I assume long optics would be the best choice. So what's a good brand that won't be too expensive for a scope?


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-will I ever need a new trigger?
-two-piece rail or full rail?

Other than that I plan for scope first, rail next so I can get a foregrip, and then maybe a front stand eventually.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:41 PM   #1542
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Good pick up, it will serve you well.

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Now, should I go long optics, or mid-length. I won't be in combat with it, so I assume long optics would be the best choice. So what's a good brand that won't be too expensive for a scope?
What distance do you plan on shooting most often?
What's your budget?

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will I ever need a new trigger?
Based on what you have told us so far, no.

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A full free float rail is going to the easiest for you. I don't think you will have a need for a two piece rail.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:43 PM   #1543
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Good pick up, it will serve you well.



What distance do you plan on shooting most often?
What's your budget?


Based on what you have told us so far, no.


A full free float rail is going to the easiest for you. I don't think you will have a need for a two piece rail.
I don't know, maybe 100 yards at the most. I'd say around $200 for the scope. Won't be buying it just yet, just want to research for a while before I do it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:47 PM   #1544
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I don't know, maybe 100 yards at the most. I'd say around $200 for the scope. Won't be buying it just yet, just want to research for a while before I do it.
Honestly, you don't really need a scope at that distance. You may be better off with a red dot and a 3x magnifier in a QD or Flip to side mount. That should allow you to shoot comfortably from 0-150y. You could do that with a Primary Arms Micro Red Dot, mount, and a Primary Arms 3x magnifer.

However, if a scope is your thing to make it easier, I would take a look at some of the Primary Arms scopes. They are basically knock offs, but the price with a mount is in your budget.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:49 PM   #1545
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I would highly recommend that you look at the Daniel Defense Omega rail. It's free floating, and it's designed to be user-installed without any special tools.

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Old 12-11-2012, 01:57 PM   #1546
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Honestly, you don't really need a scope at that distance. You may be better off with a red dot and a 3x magnifier in a QD or Flip to side mount. That should allow you to shoot comfortably from 0-150y. You could do that with a Primary Arms Micro Red Dot, mount, and a Primary Arms 3x magnifer.

However, if a scope is your thing to make it easier, I would take a look at some of the Primary Arms scopes. They are basically knock offs, but the price with a mount is in your budget.
I agree with this..Primary Arms has treated me well and Marshall is a stand up guy.

I would look at their 1-4x scope, 3-9 and micro dot with 3x magnifier depending what you want.(i really like the red dot/mag combo).

I would also look at the vortex strikefire and sparc(life time warranties).

Also keep your eye out for a used nikon m223 1-4x or 2-8x. I have seen a few sell pretty cheap and they are good scopes.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:17 PM   #1547
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i can second the vortex sparc. in my experience it is a great red dot for casual range use + it comes with a screw in magnifier.

it most certainly isnt an aimpoint but it will probably suit your needs well
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:47 PM   #1548
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Have any of you guys run across a comparison of the Troy vs Noveske vs Bad ASS ambi safety selectors? I would really like to try one, but I have no idea which direction to go in (Especially for the Bad AA since there are like 11 versions now).
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Have any of you guys run across a comparison of the Troy vs Noveske vs Bad ASS ambi safety selectors? I would really like to try one, but I have no idea which direction to go in (Especially for the Bad AA since there are like 11 versions now).
I can only comment on the badass but i love it. I have the regular/short combo. Might be the best $50 i have spent on my guns. I think it's a huge improvement. I have a custom scalloped ambi safety from the spikes enhanced kit and i like it but not as much as the Badass

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Old 12-12-2012, 06:35 PM   #1550
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I think it's basically variations on a theme. I am running Noveske 60 AMBI selectors of two of my rifles, and they're a direct drop-in setup. There's no need to do any modifying to any parts.





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-will I ever need a new trigger?
NEED? No. WANT? Maybe. It really depends what you want out of your gun. Generally speaking, you have no reason to get a different trigger right now. For 90% of applications, a milspec trigger is more than sufficient. Custom triggers are nice to use, that's for sure. The benefit of them is very circumstantial and based on what you're trying to get out of the rifle. If you have a beefed up training/combat rifle, or if you have a solid precision rifle, there is a lot of merit to getting a trigger that will match the type of shooting you want to do. The problem is that you have a pretty basic "beginner" rifle, and putting anything on it right now is going to give negligible benefit to you. If you wanted a lighter trigger, the only thing I'd say you should be looking at would be an ALG Defense ACT or QMS trigger. They're inexpensive, simple, durable and provide a slight improvement in trigger feel without complicating things.

There are high end triggers like Geissele two-stage triggers that are phenomenal. I run Geissele, and several people here also do. I think I can speak for everyone here when I say that we all love them. HOWEVER, putting a Geissele on a M&P15 Sport is like putting a set of HRE wheels on a 1996 Ford Probe.



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Other than that I plan for scope first, rail next so I can get a foregrip, and then maybe a front stand eventually.
By front stand, are you referring to a bipod? If so, don't waste the money. Bipods are for precision. Your rifle is most aptly described as a hammer, not a scalpel. Putting a bipod on your weapon adds unnecessary weight, and the usefulness of them is very limited and specific. If you decide to later invest in a different precision rifle, or just get a precision upper, mounting a bipod on that would not be unreasonable. For your current rifle, it's tits on a boar.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:54 PM   #1551
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I happen to think the 1996 Ford Probe is a very nice car.
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I happen to think the 1996 Ford Probe is a very nice car.
Well then you need a Schmidt and Bender scope for that m&p sport if you want to shoot past 50 yards

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Old 12-12-2012, 07:07 PM   #1553
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Honestly, you don't really need a scope at that distance. You may be better off with a red dot and a 3x magnifier in a QD or Flip to side mount. That should allow you to shoot comfortably from 0-150y. You could do that with a Primary Arms Micro Red Dot, mount, and a Primary Arms 3x magnifer.

However, if a scope is your thing to make it easier, I would take a look at some of the Primary Arms scopes. They are basically knock offs, but the price with a mount is in your budget.
Plus 10000

I just use my aim point which has no magnification and I have no problems hitting a 10" steel plate 100 yards out. Hell, I was doing prone transition drills with a 25 yards zero and had no problem hitting the plate using a hold over. Of course my groupings weren't super tight.
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Think I'll go with this once they have some in stock.

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Thank you for all of your help fellas. I decided to grab a M&P 15-S, it'll be here before Christmas hopefully. Every price for this gun was $700 and up on any other site, so this deal is pretty good.

Now, should I go long optics, or mid-length. I won't be in combat with it, so I assume long optics would be the best choice. So what's a good brand that won't be too expensive for a scope?


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-two-piece rail or full rail?

Other than that I plan for scope first, rail next so I can get a foregrip, and then maybe a front stand eventually.
What state do you live in?
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:30 PM   #1556
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What state do you live in?
Tennessee. Not too many gun laws.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:33 PM   #1557
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Is this the one from Slickguns?

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I happen to think the 1996 Ford Probe is a very nice car.
That's fine, but would you put a $6000 set of wheels on an $1800 bone stock Probe? It's akin to living in a dumpy neighborhood in a $110,000 home and putting in granite countertops, stainless steel apppliances and oak cabinetry right before you sell the house. You will never get out what you just put into it. The same is with putting a $200 two-stage trigger into a $650 gun.

You're fine doing upgrades to the lower, but I would recommend that you do it later if you decide to upgrade to a higher quality upper.
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That's fine, but would you put a $6000 set of wheels on an $1800 bone stock Probe? It's akin to living in a dumpy neighborhood in a $110,000 home and putting in granite countertops, stainless steel apppliances and oak cabinetry right before you sell the house. You will never get out what you just put into it. The same is with putting a $200 two-stage trigger into a $650 gun.

You're fine doing upgrades to the lower, but I would recommend that you do it later if you decide to upgrade to a higher quality upper.
It was a joke man, I know what you're saying.
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Dude, I've met people that like Probes. Seriously. Baffles the mind, but it has happened.
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