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Old 03-06-2011, 02:45 PM   #1
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BMW ODB2 Scanner - Which one?

Hello Everyone!

I came from VW background where I had my VAG-COM that I just plugged in and I could get any errors from anywhere and program anything I wanted.
After I purchased my BMW I decided it would be good to have something similar in my toolkit.

I spend some time searching for whats out there, and I'm overwhelmed. I would like to know any opinions/ideas from anyone who happen to have such tool.

I'm looking at spending maximum of $300 (USD) at most.

So far I found following:
- BMW 1.4 Scanner (600+ dollars on "manufacturer's" website and varies on ebay (from 60-300 US) - is it any good?
- Kiwi Bluetooth Scanner - Suppose to be awesome for all cars (im assuming it only reads simple obd codes?)
- BMW G1 - seems a to be a pain in the a$$ so setup, however i saw there is quite a few VM copies to run on any laptop.
- Some cheapo Bluetooth OBD2 scanner - connects to android/iphone.

So far as a test i got myself OBD2 Bluetooth for $30 from ebay. It does read live data on my android phone. It always shows me no errors even though my transmission plays up when cold and little gear shows up.

What do you guys use? How much? Where to get it from? Is there a one scanner that fits all? (ie. my partner's polo, my fathers holden/opel, mothers).

PS. Before I get screamed at! I did research this and few other forums and it is a pain in the a$$ to actually find anything useful. People normally mention something somewhere somehow about scanner. I think it would be beneficial for everyone to have a sticky or dedicated thread about scanners and sources/prices etc.

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Old 03-06-2011, 02:51 PM   #2
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I have a standalone Peake tool, generic elm327 usb cable for OBD2 software, and an INPA-compatible cable for use with the BMW OEM software.

If you want to get hacking, you can modify that vag-com cable to work with INPA. There's a whole subforum on bimmerforums dedicated to diagnostic software.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1613244
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Old 03-06-2011, 02:52 PM   #3
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Also, the generic OBD2 scanner is most likely not going to show you the transmission error.
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Old 03-06-2011, 03:13 PM   #4
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I have a standalone Peake tool, generic elm327 usb cable for OBD2 software, and an INPA-compatible cable for use with the BMW OEM software.

If you want to get hacking, you can modify that vag-com cable to work with INPA. There's a whole subforum on bimmerforums dedicated to diagnostic software.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1613244
Seems like you need a lot of tweaks and DIYs to actually get stuff to work. I'm assuming there is no out of the box solution to getting things rolling?

I have sold my vag-com with my vw, hoping that bmw community has its sorted out I have bmw 318ti compact 2001. Its hard to find any walkthroughs, because i don't think that model was released everywhere.
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Seems like you need a lot of tweaks and DIYs to actually get stuff to work. I'm assuming there is no out of the box solution to getting things rolling?

I have sold my vag-com with my vw, hoping that bmw community has its sorted out I have bmw 318ti compact 2001. Its hard to find any walkthroughs, because i don't think that model was released everywhere.
There are easy turnkey solutions but they're expensive.

To get INPA working, you just need to download the INPA/EDIABAS suite and get an INPA-compatible cable from ebay. Yes, there's a little bit of setup involved, but that's what the DIYs are for. In the end, you'll have the factory diagnostic tool on your laptop.

Yes, your model is rare and almost non-existent in the US, so you'll have some trouble finding info on model-specific problems.
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There are easy turnkey solutions but they're expensive.

To get INPA working, you just need to download the INPA/EDIABAS suite and get an INPA-compatible cable from ebay. Yes, there's a little bit of setup involved, but that's what the DIYs are for. In the end, you'll have the factory diagnostic tool on your laptop.

Yes, your model is rare and almost non-existent in the US, so you'll have some trouble finding info on model-specific problems.
I see now. So INPA/EDIABAS is a software used by BMW dealers, rather than some third party software that "could" be compatible? See if only this was put somewhere out there I would have known two weeks ago

I have just bought
http://cgi.ebay.com/INPA-Ediabas-D-C...item4aa92e2cf8

I will let you know how it goes once it arrives.
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I see now. So INPA/EDIABAS is a software used by BMW dealers, rather than some third party software that "could" be compatible? See if only this was put somewhere out there I would have known two weeks ago

I have just bought
http://cgi.ebay.com/INPA-Ediabas-D-C...item4aa92e2cf8

I will let you know how it goes once it arrives.
Yes. It's more of a factory tool than a dealership one; dealers get programs with nicer interfaces like DIS and Progman. INPA is a very fast, "no frills" tool by comparison.
That particular cable supports the newer D-CAN standard for E9Xs. What year is your compact? Does it have the round style connector under the hood? If so, you'll want to get an OBD2-ADS adapter as well. There's a cheaper INPA cable option on ebay that includes the round connector but doesn't support D-CAN.
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Yes. It's more of a factory tool than a dealership one; dealers get programs with nicer interfaces like DIS and Progman. INPA is a very fast, "no frills" tool by comparison.
That particular cable supports the newer D-CAN standard for E9Xs. What year is your compact? Does it have the round style connector under the hood? If so, you'll want to get an OBD2-ADS adapter as well. There's a cheaper INPA cable option on ebay that includes the round connector but doesn't support D-CAN.
I didn't see any round connector under the bonnet, but then i wasnt looking for it. I found OBD2 no problem under the steering wheel.

Its 318ti compact 2001.
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I didn't see any round connector under the bonnet, but then i wasnt looking for it. I found OBD2 no problem under the steering wheel.

Its 318ti compact 2001.
Yeah, if there is a round connector, you need to use that one to access all modules. Yours seems new enough not to have it, but it's a 318ti, so I make no assumptions, haha.
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Yeah, if there is a round connector, you need to use that one to access all modules. Yours seems new enough not to have it, but it's a 318ti, so I make no assumptions, haha.
Is there a rule on where/which side the connector is under the bonnet i would assume it would be visible. I remember seeing it on my mates much older 325. Ill have a look anyway!
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Is there a rule on where/which side the connector is under the bonnet i would assume it would be visible. I remember seeing it on my mates much older 325. Ill have a look anyway!
It's on the right side in LHD cars. Should be fairly obvious if you have one.

Here's one example. The Peake tool is plugged into the socket.
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It's on the right side in LHD cars. Should be fairly obvious if you have one.

Here's one example. The Peake tool is plugged into the socket.




I had a look, couldnt find anything. There are pics just in case I have.
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I don't see one either so I think you'll be ok with the OBD2 port.
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I don't see one either so I think you'll be ok with the OBD2 port.
Sweet!

Cheers for all "your" help. Since you were the only one helping lol... where is everyone else. I'll let you know when the cable arrives.
Hopefully I will be able to check my transmission..finally...
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Sweet!

Cheers for all "your" help. Since you were the only one helping lol... where is everyone else. I'll let you know when the cable arrives.
Hopefully I will be able to check my transmission..finally...
They're just shy.

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