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Old 07-10-2014, 12:39 AM   #1
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B6 S4 VS 545i

Like many others before me, I'm torn with the decision of choosing between the two. Let's start with a little info on the cars... Both are 2004, both have roughly the same mileage (Audi slightly lower), both are fully loaded, and both are 6-speed manual. After driving them a couple of times back to back I can't decide between the two. The Audi is AWD which would be great in the winter and with the 6-speed the power delivery is crisp and punchy, where as the 545i is much more gradual on the power and a little softer too. The 545i feels very big compared to the S4, however it feels nimble at the same time. Both of the cars hit the right spots for me in their own ways, which is why I'm looking to get an extra opinion or two as for which way to go. Stick with a Bimmer, or go to an Audi?

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Old 07-10-2014, 12:44 AM   #2
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B6 S4s have a chain tensioner problems which requires an engine pull to get it fixed, would have went for one since otherwise they're great cars. E60s are so damn common and psychologically old and the first gen iDrive will piss you off everyday...
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:50 AM   #3
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B6 S4s have a chain tensioner problems which requires an engine pull to get it fixed, would have went for one since otherwise they're great cars. E60s are so damn common and psychologically old and the first gen iDrive will piss you off everyday...

Both the timing chain and clutch were replaced about 10,000 kms ago, which is a big plus for me.


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Old 07-10-2014, 07:07 AM   #4
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:32 AM   #5
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545i = alternator bracket gasket. **** that noise.

There's a pointless hole in the engine that they sealed with a gasket that now leaks.
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:46 AM   #6
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Changing oil? Replacing water pump? Replacing tail lamp bulb? Go ahead and pull the front end apart.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:58 AM   #7
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What is your budget exactly? 535i's/ 550i's are trickling down in to your price range as well potentially. What're your needs exactly? Just a larger vehicle or one that is more comfy?
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:20 AM   #8
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Neither. E55 AMG, E39 M5, or go home.

I wouldn't buy an Audi with someone else's money and the 545i is just a cool way of saying you can't afford an M5.
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:16 AM   #9
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Both the timing chain and clutch were replaced about 10,000 kms ago, which is a big plus for me.
Then I vote for the S4. I love how people on here are whining about Audi maintenance when the E60 has its share of problems as well. Don't get me wrong, I'd choose to wrench on my 330 any day over our A4, but most modern cars are going to be a PITA to DIY.
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:17 AM   #10
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Neither. E55 AMG, E39 M5, or go home.

I wouldn't buy an Audi with someone else's money and the 545i is just a cool way of saying you can't afford an M5.


Anyone who purchases an e39 m5 better be smart enough and have enough cash to understand that they are purchasing a car that still costs as much to maintain as any higher end car. If I had $20-$25k to spend on a car, as much as I LOVE the e39 M5... i would never buy one. Just because they are affordable doesn't mean the maintenance is affordable.

I never understood why some people can't see the "buy newer and more reliable" rather than "buy old, more problems, but more of a bad ass car" logic. I could have purchased a 2002 M3 when I bought my car, same price. Went with an 04 330 with half the miles and its treated me like gold ever since. Has nothing to do with what you can afford, its making the wiser decision
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:23 AM   #11
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B6 S4 VS 545i

You're right you'd be much safer buying an E60 M5 over an E39 M5. Lol.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:01 AM   #12
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:38 AM   #13
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Anyone who purchases an e39 m5 better be smart enough and have enough cash to understand that they are purchasing a car that still costs as much to maintain as any higher end car. If I had $20-$25k to spend on a car, as much as I LOVE the e39 M5... i would never buy one. Just because they are affordable doesn't mean the maintenance is affordable.

I never understood why some people can't see the "buy newer and more reliable" rather than "buy old, more problems, but more of a bad ass car" logic. I could have purchased a 2002 M3 when I bought my car, same price. Went with an 04 330 with half the miles and its treated me like gold ever since. Has nothing to do with what you can afford, its making the wiser decision
Actually it sounds like it has everything to do with what you can afford.
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Well, with one choice you have to drive and Audi. And that would suck.
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Anyone who purchases an e39 m5 better be smart enough and have enough cash to understand that they are purchasing a car that still costs as much to maintain as any higher end car. If I had $20-$25k to spend on a car, as much as I LOVE the e39 M5... i would never buy one. Just because they are affordable doesn't mean the maintenance is affordable.

I never understood why some people can't see the "buy newer and more reliable" rather than "buy old, more problems, but more of a bad ass car" logic. I could have purchased a 2002 M3 when I bought my car, same price. Went with an 04 330 with half the miles and its treated me like gold ever since. Has nothing to do with what you can afford, its making the wiser decision
Anyone wanting to purchase an E60 545i or a B6 S4 better realize the same thing then. If I had $20-25k to spend on a car, an early to mid 00's German sport sedan would not be anywhere close to on my radar but it apparently is on the OP's radar. Because of that, rather than pitch out logical/sane replies of why not buy a brand new Accord or a new Focus ST or a new WRX, I decided to pitch equally unreliable and expensive to maintain vehicles that are both better performers and will give the OP more baller status than the two he was originally considering.

It has everything to do with what you want and what you can afford. How you compromise between the two is what really matters. If you want to buy an $80k car but can only afford the used version that's 12+ years old with 80k on the clock then one should know what they are getting into and make the appropriate choice given their personal resources.

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Old 07-10-2014, 12:17 PM   #16
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If the audi were a 2005 or higher, I would vote that, since the 2004 model is very dated on the inside.

However, I couldn't stomach an E60 without the M badge. It looks like sh!t, and without the V10... Isn't worth it.

I hear the Smoking Tire prefers the Focus ST to the E46 M3, so, I would get that.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:38 PM   #19
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I had a 545i.

I had it a year before selling it after dumping $5k into a perfectly maintained car up to that point (previous owner dumped $8k into it 12 months before he traded it) -- new owner is staring down the barrel of about $5k in maintenance. If you want a full breakdown of what needs to get swapped at 160tkm I can do it. I would avoid the 545i like the bubonic plague.
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