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Old 04-06-2011, 11:04 PM   #41
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Technically, if history holds consistent, the demise of American society would likely mirror the fall of the Roman Empire. This is especially possible when you consider that Rome fell due to mass socialization and an overabundance of welfare and social programs that overtaxed people and forced everyone onto the government dole, and money dried up to pay the Legion to protect and keep fighting. Likely there would just be mass secession with the formation smaller independent countries.
And while we're on it, the police would likely stop working because the city/county/state we work for would likely just stop paying us. If I'm not getting paid, I don't care that teenagers did donuts in your front yard with a 1987 Cadillac or that you sent $5k to your cousin, the Nigerian Prince, even though you're white.
Very true, but the natural state would be very scary since we've become a violent and greedy society. Without order the anarchist situation would basically lead to whoever has the most power would take control, and when money has no value that's when guns and numbers would take over... Luckily among my family and friends we have one advantage. We also wouldn't have to worry about martial law since the military as well would stop getting paid and everyone would collapse in and protect those they love. Thank everything that I kept the connections I made while serving, that way I can just group together with those guys and we have a major tactical advantage over your average redneck with a .308.
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Lemme guess; you just got a call for that?
Oddly enough, not yet tonight.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:14 PM   #43
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Very true, but the natural state would be very scary since we've become a violent and greedy society. Without order the anarchist situation would basically lead to whoever has the most power would take control, and when money has no value that's when guns and numbers would take over... Luckily among my family and friends we have one advantage. We also wouldn't have to worry about martial law since the military as well would stop getting paid and everyone would collapse in and protect those they love. Thank everything that I kept the connections I made while serving, that way I can just group together with those guys and we have a major tactical advantage over your average redneck with a .308.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss people and their abilities. Several recent FBI studies have shown that gun owners today practice shooting more than the average police officer or member of the military (discounting advanced combat units, specops, and high-deployment combat arms groups). Criminals are literally out-training police. With the exception of the last d-bag, Jared Laughner, most of the past active-shooter incidents have been by guys who have done extensive training.
In my 8yrs in the Army as an MP and a BRM instructor, I can say with confidence that at least 75% of the people in the military suck at shooting and weapons handling. Most units have pathetic standards at best. It becomes very obvious how much shooting is a perishable skill.
Marines are obviously better than the other branches.
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I would have to agree with you, I just finished my 4 years with the Army last October and including qualification have spend more time at the range shooting my pistols and AK in the last month than I did in my entire army career, it's pathetic. However, I've seen two cases that make me fear some, not all, gun owners, one was leaving a gun show where a young male around the age of 22/23 was leaving the building with his new pistol IN HAND and he kept locking the slide to the rear and hitting the release, very irresponsible. The other was just last week at an indoor range where four guys, and only two looked old enough to be of legal pistol owning age (21 in CO) shooting very haphazardly and not practicing the fundamentals, just shooting as many rounds at the target as fast as they could with no regard for accuracy; and to make matters worse, they had an MP-5 .22 semi-auto knock off SMG that held 30rnds just firing as fast as possible. I had a bad day and hit 8 bullseyes at 10M with 100 rounds from my 1911, these guys were lucky if they hit 2. And yes, marines are better shots than any regular force.
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and only two looked old enough to be of legal pistol owning age (21 in co)
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9mm. thousands of rounds.

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And rifle ammunition

If their were an apocalypse I sure hope there will be zombies. Or I'll be very disappointed.

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He was shot in head?
I wish they were more specific on how he was killed. I guess it was during a fire fight. That's all I know. A head shot seems odd for a situation like that.

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I wish they were more specific on how he was killed. I guess it was during a fire fight. That's all I know. A head shot seems odd for a situation like that.

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The story is that he was cornered and ordered to surrender, but he resisted and attempted to use two women as human shields. One was his wife. One of the females was fatally shot by DevGru during that. DevGru popped him in the chest, and then twice in the side of the head.
The actual firefight portion was outside and then inside the walled compound as they fought their way to get to him.
Head shots are standard fare for Tier 1 groups like 6th SEALs NavSpecWar DevGru and 1-SFOD-D,CAG
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The story is that he was cornered and ordered to surrender, but he resisted and attempted to use two women as human shields. One was his wife. One of the females was fatally shot by DevGru during that. DevGru popped him in the chest, and then twice in the side of the head.
The actual firefight portion was outside and then inside the walled compound as they fought their way to get to him.
Head shots are standard fare for Tier 1 groups like 6th SEALs NavSpecWar DevGru and 1-SFOD-D,CAG


nice! I like that. He knew his fate when he saw it. I thought maybe he was shot and never saw it coming.
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I like to think that they just capped his ass for the hell of it. Seal Team 6 doesn't mess around. Dick Marcinko basically set that team up as a professional hit squad.
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I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss people and their abilities. Several recent FBI studies have shown that gun owners today practice shooting more than the average police officer or member of the military (discounting advanced combat units, specops, and high-deployment combat arms groups). Criminals are literally out-training police. With the exception of the last d-bag, Jared Laughner, most of the past active-shooter incidents have been by guys who have done extensive training.
In my 8yrs in the Army as an MP and a BRM instructor, I can say with confidence that at least 75% of the people in the military suck at shooting and weapons handling. Most units have pathetic standards at best. It becomes very obvious how much shooting is a perishable skill.
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im not a great shot but im at the range at least once a week and my dad who is a 15 year sheriffs went more with me in the last two months that her did in the last 15 years.

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I'd still stock myself a decent amount of arrows and a couple bows/crossbows.
I've been thinking about picking up a bow or a crossbow. Any suggetions on a bare-bones entry level model for each?
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Found this....

http://crossbow.pikimal.com/top/for/pikirank

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I've been thinking about picking up a bow or a crossbow. Any suggetions on a bare-bones entry level model for each?
For bows, I've only shot Bear and Hoyt. I'd say a lot of the starter/budget bows industry wide would be comparable though. I really want to get a Hoyt Carbon Element (compound) in black

For Crossbows I like the look of the PSE's TAC series though they aren't cheap and I've never shot one.



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They have ready-to-shoot models and just the uppers to attach to your own AR lower.
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