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Old 03-31-2011, 03:52 PM   #1
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My 19" VB3 CSL's are here! 275 wide on non-M inside!

Just got my rear set of VMR VB3 CSL replica wheels. 19x9.5 et 45. tires are 275/30/19 hankook ventus v12

The car is an 02 330ci coupe w/ sport pkg. sitting on H&R sport springs. 275 is just wide enough so it is not stretched at all and looks factory. Modifications are definetly required. I have a Stance fender rolling tool on the way, angle grinder with cut off wheels and some friends who have done this on a few cars. Starting this project this weekend, stay tuned! let the cutting, grinding and rolling begin! check back for updates.

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before:




tires measure 10.5" wide





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Old 03-31-2011, 04:56 PM   #2
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Very nice! Can't wait to see how these look on your car. Be sure to post lots of photos of the process to get them to fit, as well as the finished results.
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Old 04-02-2011, 05:02 PM   #3
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Started some test fitment today. got the car up on jackstands, pulled the factory wheels and bolted one new wheel up.



First thing i noticed is on the drivers side there is a bolt sticking past a nut on the fender liner. it hangs out into the wheel well pretty close to the tire. no idea if this was gonna be a problem but i took care of it anyway. lol. with the help of a cut off wheel i buzzed it right off and left a tiny part of the nut head to hold the liner in place still.



I had read the that the bracket/clip that holds the rear bumper cover up could rub the tire also. after looking its damn close. I went ahead and cut the bolt off flush with the nut and cut the raised plastic area out of the fender liner just to be safe.




Bolted the new wheel on and jacked the tire up to load the suspension. car sits nice on 19's with the H & R springs. not much wheel gap.



this is the stock fender lip.



heres a view from the face of the rim looking upward. definetly will not fit with out modifications.






thats the progress so far. waiting on the fender rolling tool and heat gun. i'll post more ina few days after the lips are rolled.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:05 PM   #4
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Picked up a heat gun at the hardware store.



A buddy stopped by with a Stance fender roller.



tried for an hour different ways of getting the seam sealer out of the fender lip. we gave up and heated it up super hot so it was mushy and rolled it. it kind of squished out and let us roll it. but it still didn't roll totally flat like some people would do. the only issue we had was inside the lip some paint peeled off. its not near the outside of the car or the edge at all. i'm not too worried.

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Old 04-03-2011, 07:12 PM   #5
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Mounted the wheels up and went for a short drive. hit some large bumps and no rubbing on the lip. inspected the outside edge of the tires, looked perfect.

how it sits now.

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Old 04-03-2011, 11:28 PM   #6
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pics of the stance! ass shots
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:33 AM   #7
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I need to get the liner out of my fenders and roll them again. Any advice? I would like to remove it and then roll.
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1st thing is heat the paint on the outside good and hot so you dont crack your paint. I did my camaro with no heat and the inside lip all of the paint flaked off. it seems that if you want a really flat roll to get maximum clearance, you have to remove that seam sealer stuff that is inside the lip. i heated it up with a heat gun and picked it out with a screw driver. after an hour i only had about 1-2 inches removed. i then gave up. it wont roll flat like most cars if you leave this stuff in. i have the very minimum clearance to make these fit. its so close it looks like it would rub easily, yet somehow it was just enough.
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:27 AM   #9
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Tire is pretty wide, close to shocks and inner fender. there is about 1/4" clearance on the inside.





Fronts fit perfect with no modification. I think i need a big brake kit with these huge wheels now!

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Old 04-04-2011, 11:32 AM   #10
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here was some i had. the stock wheels are on now to drive to work for the week.






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Old 04-04-2011, 12:11 PM   #11
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need to stretch it and space it!
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Really great work! Good thing you're taking your time to make sure they fit without any problems.
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need to stretch it and space it!
sorry, bit of a n00b here...do you mean stretch the fender and add spacers to the wheels? if the edge of the tire sits flush with the fender, wouldn't the metal hit the rubber on bumps and stuff (i.e. BAD)?
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References to stretching is directed to the tires, meaning running a narrower tire and adding a spacer to make the wheel sit further out without causing any rubbing issues.
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interesting, thanks...I've always dreamed of running 295s on 11" rims in the back on my M, but that wouldn't be stretching because that's about 12" of rubber...will have to see what I can do about that. I know several people run 285s but 295s would be

just have my oem 19s right now, got a long mod list before I get to the wheels, lol.
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You could always pull the fenders in order to fit tires that size (more along the lines of what you initially thought stretching was). That would look super aggressive though, especially from the back.
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hate that look. i wanted a wide tire. cant space it at all. the offset is as much as i can run. any spacer at all and it would hit the lip. its not possible with out changing tires or pulling the fender.
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what does "pulling the fender" entail? cost? pics?
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pulling the fender would be pulling the factory flare or arched bodyline above the wheel out even farther. Mine started to pull out a bit when my fender lip was rolled completely and we kept putting more force on it with the roller. mine is so slight you cant tell. some people pull the fender out away from the car another 1/2" or so to fit differnt wheels. it can be done your self if you have a fender roller.
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what does "pulling the fender" entail? cost? pics?
Pulling fenders basically is an extension of rolling fenders. You're applying a greater amount of pressure from the roller head to the fender, which results in the metal getting pushed out from the car more. This will add more clearance but generally doesn't have an OEM look to it.
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