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Old 04-09-2011, 12:54 AM   #1
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Goin bird hunting...help me pick a new toy

Like the title suggests, I'm goin dove hunting in August when season opens up. This gives me a whole reason to buy a new shotgun. I'm thinking a semi-auto, 12 gauge. Might be a little overkill....but I can live with that. Any recommendations? I'm thinking either a benelli m2 field or a remington 11-87.

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Old 04-09-2011, 02:41 AM   #2
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If you're looking at a Remington, skip the 11-87. They're crude, generally of rough construction, and I've seen several take a dump. I have yet to take apart my little brother's 11-87 without cutting myself. No joke. The 1100 is much more refined, but it's still heavy, and it only shoots 2 3/4" shells. The new Versa Max is supposed to be the cat's ass of Remington's shotgun line with it's self-regulating gas system. Remington autos have been overall decent, but there's always been better options out there. I think the Versa Max shows Remington taking a step in the right direction.
The Winchester SX3 has gotten lots of accolades for its speed, but it's still a heavy gun since it's still based on the same platform as the Browning Gold and Silver hunters.
If I were going to get a gas gun, it'd be Beretta without question. I have two cousins with AL391s (my family is huge into bird hunting). One is a Teknys, which is the one I've shot. It's a well-built gun with excellent ergos and controls, handles and swings well, and the construction is top-notch. Further proof that all good autoloading and double-barrel shotguns are of Italian design. I am not a gas gun guy, but if I were, I'd be considering the new Beretta A400. It's supposed to have a lot of new innovations that will make the AL391 obsolete, despite the AL391 being an exceptional gun.

But when it comes down to it, I will always fall back on my Benellis. Benelli is knock-down-drag-out reliable. I own two, with another two coming sometime in the near future. My dad owns one, my uncle owns one, and my brother is going to be trading in his 11-87 for one. They're smooth as glass to shoot, very comfortable, and the options with the ComforTech stock have less recoil than any gas gun. It's upwards of 45% recoil reduction. The inertia recoil system is basically more reliable than an AK47. My uncle went 4 years of pheasant, waterfowl, turkey and deer hunting with his Benelli Montefeltro 12ga without ever cleaning. He comes up to me one day halfway through a week-long South Dakota pheasant slaying trip and tells me his gun is running slow for some reason. It still runs, and is cycling every load and has never malfunctioned. I open the bolt and grinds back, and the inside is just full of dirt, corn stalk, grass and sludge. It was absolutely nasty in there. 4 years, thousands of rounds. Still ran. Zero malfunctions. Zero damage. I stripped the bolt and cleaned it and the inside of the gun in less than 5 minutes, lubed it lightly and put it back together. Smooth as glass. I think I went over a year without cleaning my Super Black Eagle, and it still ran like a top.
If cost isn't as much of a concern, look into the Montefeltro Silver, Sport II or Legacy for a nicer gun. If you plan on shooting A LOT of ammo (common with dove hunting), stick with a gun that has the ComforTech stock, like the Cordoba, Super Sport or M2. Or look into the new Vinci. That thing is pretty sweet.
If you can't tell, I'm a Benelli whore.

I would recommend staying with 12ga. You can always use lighter game loads or trap loads for doves. It's my understanding that nearly all of that insane dove hunting in Argentina is done with 12ga. 20ga works well, and is a good alternative. 28ga is a blast to shoot and also good for dove shooting, but ammo is harder to find and more expensive.
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Old 04-09-2011, 03:04 AM   #3
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Thanks Reedo - I'm leaning heavily towards the Benelli. I know benellis are nice, and nice things don't come cheap. After reading up a little more on the comfortech stock, I've decided that is a must have on my purchase. With a budget of $1000-1250, what would you recommendation be? Cost will always be an issue, but quality is a requirement.
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I would really push you to the Vinci. It's a seriously good system, and it's based on Benelli's outstanding inertia-driven system. The recoil reduction of up to 72% is just amazing. It's only about a year old, so it's still very unique.
They go for around $1299 for black synthetic, and $1399 for camo-coated (which is more weather-resistant if you do a lot of hunting in inclement weather).






Otherwise, the M2 is a fantastic option as well. My brothers and I bought my dad an M2 with Max4 camo for father's day a couple years ago to replace his 25yr old Wingmaster. He loves it. I've shot it a lot too, and that ComforTech stock is fantastic (especially with mag loads).
They're around $1199 for black synthetic and $1299 for camo-coated.


Being a Benelli owner is sort of a tight-knit club. Everyone who owns one loves it to death. I have never met someone who has owned a Benelli and did not like it. You have to pay to play, but the money is very well spent. You get amazing quality. I mean, they look good and feel good, but once you shoot one, you "just know".
The one thing to remember about Benelli is that they're inertia-driven, and you have to break them in. They require a minimum load of 1 1/8oz, 3dram to cycle for normal loads. You want to start out shooting heavier than that for about the first case of ammo (250rds). Some people will shoot a couple boxes right away of magnum goose or turkey loads, and then keep shooting medium to heavy loads for a bit. Once the gun is initially broken-in, you can shoot that minimum weight. Once you REALLY break in the gun, like my 10yr old Super Black Eagle, you can easily cycle stuff a little lighter than the minimum. I can cycle 1oz loads.
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I think I'm gonna go with the Montefeltro, or M2. I got a chance to finger a few of these benelli's at a Gander Mountain today. While the Vinci's features are phenomenal, it just didn't feel right hwen I was holding it compared to the others. One of my best friends who hunts a fair amount also raves about his Montefeltro. I think in terms of price vs quality, it's gonna be a good fit here. As much as I want to drop over $1200 on a shotgun, I don't know if it's going to be very wise of me to do so. I asked him about recoil on his montefeltro and he says that its really negligible too, and that the comfortech must really make the gun have zero recoil.

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Old 04-10-2011, 07:08 PM   #6
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How about of of the sister companies to Benelli like Franchi or Stoeger, they're a little cheaper?
The Franchi I-12 has the Original Inertia Driven System, not the new Inline IDS that the Vinci has.
http://www.franchiusa.com/firearms/i-12_waterfowl.php
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How about of of the sister companies to Benelli like Franchi or Stoeger, they're a little cheaper?
The Franchi I-12 has the Original Inertia Driven System, not the new Inline IDS that the Vinci has.
http://www.franchiusa.com/firearms/i-12_waterfowl.php
Franchi (sporting guns) and Stoeger don't have as good of build quality as Benelli. Benelli is the best, then Franchi, then Stoeger is at the bottom. There is an appreciable difference between Benelli and Stoeger, and if you cheap out, you will notice a difference. Benelli vs Stoeger is like Lexus vs Toyota.
Then there's Franchi- Franchi is decent but not "great" like Benelli. You notice some lack of refinement in certain areas of the construction, but it's not a pile of junk either. It's just obvious that Benelli is the king.


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I think I'm gonna go with the Montefeltro, or M2. I got a chance to finger a few of these benelli's at a Gander Mountain today. While the Vinci's features are phenomenal, it just didn't feel right hwen I was holding it compared to the others. One of my best friends who hunts a fair amount also raves about his Montefeltro. I think in terms of price vs quality, it's gonna be a good fit here. As much as I want to drop over $1200 on a shotgun, I don't know if it's going to be very wise of me to do so. I asked him about recoil on his montefeltro and he says that its really negligible too, and that the comfortech must really make the gun have zero recoil.
Montefeltros are nice. I like them a lot too. The rib is too low for my eye, and I need the raised vent rib of the M2, SBE2, SuperSport, etc. If the height of the rib on the Monte feels good, get that thing. It's a phenomenal upland gun.
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Reedo - would you happen to know pricing? I'm looking online and seeing things in the 1100-1275 price range. Typical? It's gonna be a happy bday gift for myself
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That sounds about right for pricing.
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Really don't wanna pay that much for a shotgun. However, it's gonna be worth it over something like an 1187 (or so I keep telling myself)
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You find it 'cool' to shoot down harmless birds? I hope they sh!t all over your belongings you sick bastard
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It's not 'cool', it's "cool". And by "cool", I mean COOL. Not just cool or Cool, but COOL.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go execute a hutch full of bunnies.

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Really don't wanna pay that much for a shotgun. However, it's gonna be worth it over something like an 1187 (or so I keep telling myself)
Trust me, it's worth it. I wouldn't own two and be looking to buy two more if I didn't believe that they weren't the best. In the 10 years and thousands and thousands of rounds I've shot (and dozens and dozens of birds for those thousands of rounds ), I have never had a malfunction.
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Trust me, it's worth it. I wouldn't own two and be looking to buy two more if I didn't believe that they weren't the best. In the 10 years and thousands and thousands of rounds I've shot (and dozens and dozens of birds for those thousands of rounds ), I have never had a malfunction.
Buy once, cry once! I'll be headed to cabela's this wknd. Roadtrip because my friend insists on it. I know where to buy all the "tacticool" guns, but no idea where to get hunting guns.
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I have a beneli m3 that I picked up cheap last year and love it. I think im going to take it trap shooting for fun soon haha. Almost want to trade it for an ar15 just cause I have always wanted one and don't have the extra cash right now
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That hybrid pump/semi-auto setup for the M3 is intriguing but I don't know much about it. Being a Benelli I'm sure it's good but that kind of set-up seems a bit wonky to me.
I'm grabbing a Remington 870 soon but will get another Benelli eventually to complement my M1014.
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