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Old 04-24-2014, 09:20 PM   #1
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Looking For Feedback on a Floor Jack Product

Update- Here is the official video from Alltrade Tools, thanks for the input!








Hi Ladies and Gentlemen: Below you will find a floor jack product I have been working on for a bit of time. I have tried to collaborate with floor jack companies in the US and abroad and the feedback has been positive, yet I have no commitments from any of them.

The basis of the product should be pretty familiar with anyone who has worked under car. It helps lift a vehicle and place it on the factory lift points utilizing the factory pinch welds. I know a lot of advanced DIYers know there are other places to lift a car, but I still feel this concept would make the process easier and promote safety.

Since I have no commitments from the industry, I am getting to the point where I might embark on the development and production of this product without the help of the industry. This is why I am posting this here. I want to get a better feel from the market if this is a good product or I am just being delusional as I am too close to the product.

The product pictured is a very crude prototype I made. It is in no way supposed to be a final product. I made it just to prove the concept works.



Assuming the following, would you find this to be a useful product?

- Designed and manufactured to industry standards for safety
- Useable as a regular floor jack and for the function as described above
- Pricing, slightly higher than a regular floor jack
- Warranty and service comparable to other products in the market

I am not trying to sell anything here, really just looking for your input. Thanks, Tom


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Old 04-24-2014, 09:40 PM   #2
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I like it. It has a limitation in that the jack has to be oriented along one axis of the jackstand, and only one type of jackstand can be used. However, if you are not getting any commitments from the floor jack industry, you should find out why. You would think someone would jump on something like this.
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Old 04-24-2014, 10:19 PM   #3
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Thanks WildIrish. It has been odd. A lot of these companies haven't given me the time of day or a real explanation why they wouldn't want to proceed. One company basically told me that it was too different and didn't think the market would understand its purpose.
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Old 04-25-2014, 07:58 AM   #4
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Let me tell you something... EVERY single time I've jacked my car up, I've wished I had a jack that could do EXACTLY this. I absolutely think you are onto something. If you do a kickstarter you have my money. Also, if you need help with product photography, video, or a website, message me, as I truly believe you have something pretty good here.

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Hi Ladies and Gentlemen: Below you will find a floor jack product I have been working on for a bit of time. I have tried to collaborate with floor jack companies in the US and abroad and the feedback has been positive, yet I have no commitments from any of them.

The basis of the product should be pretty familiar with anyone who has worked under car. It helps lift a vehicle and place it on the factory lift points utilizing the factory pinch welds. I know a lot of advanced DIYers know there are other places to lift a car, but I still feel this concept would make the process easier and promote safety.

Since I have no commitments from the industry, I am getting to the point where I might embark on the development and production of this product without the help of the industry. This is why I am posting this here. I want to get a better feel from the market if this is a good product or I am just being delusional as I am too close to the product.

The product pictured is a very crude prototype I made. It is in no way supposed to be a final product. I made it just to prove the concept works.


Assuming the following, would you find this to be a useful product?

- Designed and manufactured to industry standards for safety
- Useable as a regular floor jack and for the function as described above
- Pricing, slightly higher than a regular floor jack
- Warranty and service comparable to other products in the market

I am not trying to sell anything here, really just looking for your input. Thanks, Tom

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Old 04-25-2014, 05:52 PM   #5
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Great idea ... would work, for example, on VWs, but not on BMWs (too narrow between the jack "teeth" to work around stock BMW jack points on body).
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:54 PM   #6
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Ever seen this product..




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Old 04-26-2014, 07:11 PM   #7
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Exactly what I thought of when i saw this
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:50 AM   #8
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Def. aware of that product. I guess I see the main difference is that one is constrained to a fixed height. If one ever wanted to lift all four corners, I think it would cost $600 in product. I think it is a good solution, clearly...because that product is in the market and selling...more than I can say for mine!
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:41 PM   #9
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Have you tried marketing this to Pittsburg? I would think they would jump all over this. They could sell the jack for ~$100, plus the jack stands, and it would be well less than $600.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:52 PM   #10
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Can't say I have been connected directly to them - that would be nice. I am at a weird place with this. I am still waiting on some responses. I am not really wanting to be in the manufacturing business, but am not crossing it out. I have a enough things going on with my wife/3kids. Tom
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:52 PM   #11
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I think it would be a lot better if it was an attachment to an existing jack. Preferably one that could be easily removed.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:04 PM   #12
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Def. aware of that product. I guess I see the main difference is that one is constrained to a fixed height. If one ever wanted to lift all four corners, I think it would cost $600 in product. I think it is a good solution, clearly...because that product is in the market and selling...more than I can say for mine!
If I were going to spend that kind of money, I would double it and get this:
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:06 PM   #13
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That IS pretty slick!
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:09 PM   #14
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Here's a link. http://www.garageautoequipment.com/Q...shoppingengine

I think BimmerTools (Forum sponser) is getting ready to offer it as well.
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:50 AM   #15
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For those interested...Here is another video:

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Old 01-25-2017, 08:16 PM   #16
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Updated video, thanks again for the support.
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