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Old 05-12-2011, 07:22 PM   #1
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handgun recommendation for 1st & probably only?

I know nothing when it comes to handguns... I own a couple shotguns for messing around, nothing serious.

I'm looking for a handgun just to have some fun at the range and to take up a new hobby.... I'm in NJ with very strict gun laws. To be honest, the gun is not for self defense and will most likely never user other than at the range once a month. Like I said, it will probably be the only handgun I ever buy.

Recommendations for:

- Handgun amateur shooter
- Range shooting
- Easy to shoot and care for
- something in the 250-400 range

Plus, as a complete amateur, any beginners information is very much appreciated by the veterans on board.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:45 PM   #2
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OP,

Any thoughts on the caliber you want to shoot ?

Cheapest would be .22 at about .04 cents a round.

9mm is also very popular, almost every handgun maker makes a 9mm pistol.
In bulk, about .21 cents a round.

Knowing what ammo is going to cost you, could help put you in the right handgun.

Good luck.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:47 PM   #3
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OP,

Any thoughts on the caliber you want to shoot ?

Cheapest would be .22 at about .04 cents a round.

9mm is also very popular, almost every handgun maker makes a 9mm pistol.
In bulk, about .21 cents a round.

Knowing what ammo is going to cost you, could help put you in the right handgun.

Good luck.
Not a MAJOR concern for me since I'll only be shooting once a month, if I'm lucky. Prob a 9mm for me.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:01 PM   #4
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Glock 34 9mm
Glock 17 9mm
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Ruger SP101 .357
Ruger Hunter Mark III .22
Walther PPS 9mm
Walther P22 .22 ($350)

You HAVE to increase your budget for a decent gun that is not a .22 IMO.

$600 or less is fine.

If you refuse to, check out used Taurus revolvers.
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If it's solely a range gun, then look into a Ruger MkII .22 pistol. You can learn the fundamentals and it's very inexpensive to shoot.
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Glock 19

It's about 350 for a used one, try to get a 3rd generation one. Ask the guy behind the counter which generation it is.

The gun is a 9mm, has no safety, easy to take apart, oil, and put back together. No complications.

It's easy to control and takes a round that is 10.50 per 50 at walmart. You'll want to put at least 500 rounds through it a year to maintain your proficiency.

The 3rd and 4th generation models come with a built in rail which means you can mount a light to the underside of the gun. A huge plus in my opinion.

Stick with 9mm no matter what you get. good luck!
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:48 AM   #8
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Ruger MKII is a good choice. You are going to have alot more fun with a .22 vs a 9mm if this is just going to be a range gun. At todays prices if you want to shoot more than 1-2 boxes it's going to get REALLY costly fast.

If you get a ruger mkII make sure you get one with adjustable sights.

I'v got a MKII target and a plain jane, I ALWAYS take the target. With some stingers its not a shabby little HD pistol either if its your only gun.


The glock 19 is a great gun, its really hard to kill one. I've been trying to kill a 19 and a 34 for a couple years now. When they finally die I'm going to cement them in to the sidewalk of my house, it'll look cool.

So far we've managed to lock the slide shut on the 19 once because of a well placed shot on the barrel hood (we beat it open on a cender block and it worked fine)

The 34 failed once becaue of never cleaning/dirt inside. We pissed on that pistol and it worked fine after that (searously, piss fixes guns, fixed a dirty ak47 like that once also)

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There are .22 kits for the glocks if you want best of both worlds BUT the .22 kit is $300, more than the price of a basic ruger.

Also look at the walther p22, great little pistols in the $300 range especially cool if you have a silencer on one and some sub sonic ammo.

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Spend an extra $100 and get a Glock or Springfield XD.
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:37 AM   #10
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avoid the XD as a first gun, there are parts that can be assembled backwards/upside down and you wont know it until your next range trip when the gun nolonger works. There is one blind hole, designed to receive a pin. If the pin goes in backward, it cannot be removed and must be drilled out!

I tried to like them, I bought a couple when they first came out, I bought a newer variant..... It's a "ok" gun but its not on the same level as a glock.
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Thanks for all the input

I'm ok to increasing my budget to 5-600 if I must.

I'm going to the range monday and I'm going to try out a bunch of different models. I'll see what I like and come back here to ask specific questions on the one i narrow it down to, for reliability, ease of maintenance, etc.

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avoid the XD as a first gun, there are parts that can be assembled backwards/upside down and you wont know it until your next range trip when the gun nolonger works. There is one blind hole, designed to receive a pin. If the pin goes in backward, it cannot be removed and must be drilled out!

I tried to like them, I bought a couple when they first came out, I bought a newer variant..... It's a "ok" gun but its not on the same level as a glock.
What are you talking about?

XD is an amazing firearm
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OP make sure you learn NJ gun laws in and out.
Lemme know if you have questions
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What are you talking about?

XD is an amazing firearm
There ok if you baby them, they cant be treated like a glock.

The first XD 45 I had needed to be squeaky clean or it would not go in to battery. I crossed a river with it on once and it never worked right for the rest of the trip.

Twice I broke trigger bar springs on 2 other guns. Sucks when you need to use your pistol and the trigger wont reset. This is WHY I wont carry a XD any more.

The other big issue I came accross was the recoil spring assembly would roll off center and jam the pistols up from time to time.

This stuff is bad juju especially for a carry gun, id rather carry a c9 hi point, atleast it would WORK when need.

OP, if you can find a outdoor range to use you are going to have alot more fun than if your stuck in a indoor range.

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OP, if you can find a outdoor range to use you are going to have alot more fun than if your stuck in a indoor range.
Really? I actually have a better experience at an indoor range. I can change targets when I want, change distance as I see fit, and never have to wait for a cease fire. The ranges around here are also air conditioned so I don't need to sweat it out during the summer.
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In that price range, Glock 17 or M&P in 9mm.

The Glock (up to gen 3) grip is blocky and not everybody likes how they feel (I think they're great, btw). The M&P has interchangeable backstraps, and is a bit more ergonomic. You can fit it to a wider variety /size of hands. Either are great, reliable guns.
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With a indoor range you cant use targets like reactive plinkers, golf balls, spray paint cans.....

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OP said he's a complete amatuer. I don't think that he needs to go shooting at golf balls, paint cans, and reactive targets just yet. He needs to take a few lessons from a certified pistol instructor and enjoy tearing the hell out of paper targets while learning the fundamentals of shooting.

Just my opinion of course...
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Before you pick your caliber, think about what your intentions are and how much you want to spend.

If it's going to be purely a target/range gun, then .22 might be a great choice. You can get a high quality target pistol for your stated price range, and the very low cost of .22 ammo will keep the price of range trips down. However, you may find yourself getting bored with it after a while.
Some ideas in .22:
Ruger .22 series (lots to choose from, I like the stainless target)
Browning Buckmark (also lots to choose from, I love my UDX Plus)
Beretta NEOs (never shot one but heard good things)
Sig Mosquito (fun plinking gun but sometimes ammo picky)
Walther P22 (fun plinking gun, much smaller than the above)

9mm is a great second option as it's a full powered round you could easily use for self defense, and also provides a little more difficult shooting experience, giving you more to master. It's also the cheapest of the center-fire pistol cartridges and one of the easiest to find. That said, it's a hell of a lot more expensive than .22. Some ideas in 9mm:
Glock 17/19
Springfield XD 9
Sig P226 (more expensive than your stated budget but totally worth it IMO)


Lastly, I'd suggest going to a range that rents firearms and trying out a selection of different guns and calibers before you make an investment in one. Research rarely is that fun.
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What are you talking about?

XD is an amazing firearm
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