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Old 08-02-2011, 05:28 PM   #201
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Oh man! Sorry to hear! Are you guys going to replace with another Comp oil-less turbo??
We will determine that once I have the car back in my possession. Currently shipping it back from Florida ASAP. R&D is expensive and time consuming, however I promise it will be worth the wait.
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We will determine that once I have the car back in my possession. Currently shipping it back from Florida ASAP. R&D is expensive and time consuming, however I promise it will be worth the wait.
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:26 PM   #203
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We will determine that once I have the car back in my possession. Currently shipping it back from Florida ASAP. R&D is expensive and time consuming, however I promise it will be worth the wait.
Sounds good!! I'm deffinately waiting (holding off any FI purchasing) to see the finished product! keep us updated!
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We will determine that once I have the car back in my possession. Currently shipping it back from Florida ASAP. R&D is expensive and time consuming, however I promise it will be worth the wait.
Hi Mike, this is Kevin from D.C. whom spoke to you & John on several occasions about this kit and the progress. I joined this forum just to reach you through this thread.

...you guys mention the comp turbo failed and are considering other options, etc.. (which frankly i see as a minor issue/no big deal regardless). But you made no mention on how the *DME tuning* went with Nick?? A working DME tune on an S54 'TURBO' is unprecedented and would represent a world breakthru!! Was that entirely achieved?? Or does thing thing need another round of tuning after a new turbo is bolted up to it...? Thx.

Please lemme know about the DME tune/work, people ''in the know'' here reckognize that component to this kit is the real *game changer*

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The DME tuning went great up to the point where the turbo failed. It will be going back to FL as soon as I get the hardware sorted.
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The DME tuning went great up to the point where the turbo failed. It will be going back to FL as soon as I get the hardware sorted.
Understood, thanks Mike. I hope you run into NO delays on getting another turbo on it and back out to Nick to complete the tune.

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Hi Mike, this is Kevin from D.C. whom spoke to you & John on several occasions about this kit and the progress. I joined this forum just to reach you through this thread.

...you guys mention the comp turbo failed and are considering other options, etc.. (which frankly i see as a minor issue/no big deal regardless). But you made no mention on how the *DME tuning* went with Nick?? A working DME tune on an S54 'TURBO' is unprecedented and would represent a world breakthru!! Was that entirely achieved?? Or does thing thing need another round of tuning after a new turbo is bolted up to it...? Thx.

Please lemme know about the DME tune/work, people ''in the know'' here reckognize that component to this kit is the real *game changer*

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Kevin,

The ECU tuning is progressing very well. The car drives just like a stock car, until of course, you push further on the throttle pedal Closed loop lambda control is enabled and functional, as is lambda adaption. The whole system works as expected. Everything is there: driveability, power, diagnostics, no CELs staring you in the face, etc.

I was highly disappointed when the turbo failed, cause I was having a BLAST driving the car around, LOL. Once MaximumPSI makes a few minor hardware revisions (including swapping out the turbo) and gets the car back down to me, I'll put the final finishing touches on the software and then MaximumPSI can start producing and selling the kits.
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Any ballpark on what the power numbers were? How much power to the wheels were you putting down?
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Any ballpark on what the power numbers were? How much power to the wheels were you putting down?
I know everybody's wondering about that....I would be too. But I won't be releasing any power numbers as this isn't 'my kit'. I've suggested to MaximumPSI that they wait till everything is completely buttoned up and finalized before *they* release the power numbers.

What I will say is that the power production thus far has been exactly what I expected (ie, what the math predicts it would be).
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Kevin,

The ECU tuning is progressing very well. The car drives just like a stock car, until of course, you push further on the throttle pedal Closed loop lambda control is enabled and functional, as is lambda adaption. The whole system works as expected. Everything is there: driveability, power, diagnostics, no CELs staring you in the face, etc.

I was highly disappointed when the turbo failed, cause I was having a BLAST driving the car around, LOL. Once MaximumPSI makes a few minor hardware revisions (including swapping out the turbo) and gets the car back down to me, I'll put the final finishing touches on the software and then MaximumPSI can start producing and selling the kits.
Thank you very much for posting this reply Nick, I was actually going to PM you right now but signed on to see you had already answered all my questions. I personally could care less about the "numbers" at this early stage in it's development and was more concerned with if a DME tune with the correct drivability and NO cels was even possible. Hearing how great you've got the DME to respond to turbo-assist is music to my ears for a saves a lot of money not needing a stand-alone $$$. I know the hp numbers will come, these are very effecient motors (high VE's) and respond strongly to F/I & boost. Great work Nick! PS; if u got a comical msg on ur voice mail several days ago from "a DC fan" that was yours truly LOL

...btw, what PSI/lbs did you to tune her to/at? Thx
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I know everybody's wondering about that....I would be too. But I won't be releasing any power numbers as this isn't 'my kit'. I've suggested to MaximumPSI that they wait till everything is completely buttoned up and finalized before *they* release the power numbers.

What I will say is that the power production thus far has been exactly what I expected (ie, what the math predicts it would be).
Well my thinking is based on history your kits have been consistent and bulletproof. Your number for stage 1 kit have been at the 67% power increase so with that:

BMW m3 e36 -- stock 240hp + 67% ( 160hp ) = 400hp with the 15% drivetrain loss 60hp which makes it 340rwhp which is where you have your m3 e36 stage 1 kit rated at

BMW 330 e46 zhp -- stock 230hp + 67% ( 154hp ) = 384hp with the 15% drivetrain loss is 57.6 which makes it 326.4 rwhp which is where you have your 330 e46 zhp stage 1 kit rated at

Same with the regular 330

So following the math

BMW m3 e46 -- stock 333hp + 67% ( 223.1 ) = 556hp with the 15% drivetrain loss is 83.4 which makes it 472.6rwhp for the stage 1 kit

Which is on par with the s/c stage 1 kits from aa and ess but with the difference of the tq arriving much earlier in the powerband

Again this is the math theory that I came up with
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Well my thinking is based on history your kits have been consistent and bulletproof. Your number for stage 1 kit have been at the 67% power increase so with that:

BMW m3 e36 -- stock 240hp + 67% ( 160hp ) = 400hp with the 15% drivetrain loss 60hp which makes it 340rwhp which is where you have your m3 e36 stage 1 kit rated at

BMW 330 e46 zhp -- stock 230hp + 67% ( 154hp ) = 384hp with the 15% drivetrain loss is 57.6 which makes it 326.4 rwhp which is where you have your 330 e46 zhp stage 1 kit rated at

Same with the regular 330

So following the math

BMW m3 e46 -- stock 333hp + 67% ( 223.1 ) = 556hp with the 15% drivetrain loss is 83.4 which makes it 472.6rwhp for the stage 1 kit

Which is on par with the s/c stage 1 kits from aa and ess but with the difference of the tq arriving much earlier in the powerband

Again this is the math theory that I came up with

If your math is correct, which I'm pretty sure it is or fairly close.... I'd be happy with that kind of power on a factory DME tuned stage 1 turbo kit!!!
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Well my thinking is based on history your kits have been consistent and bulletproof. Your number for stage 1 kit have been at the 67% power increase so with that:

BMW m3 e36 -- stock 240hp + 67% ( 160hp ) = 400hp with the 15% drivetrain loss 60hp which makes it 340rwhp which is where you have your m3 e36 stage 1 kit rated at

BMW 330 e46 zhp -- stock 230hp + 67% ( 154hp ) = 384hp with the 15% drivetrain loss is 57.6 which makes it 326.4 rwhp which is where you have your 330 e46 zhp stage 1 kit rated at

Same with the regular 330

So following the math

BMW m3 e46 -- stock 333hp + 67% ( 223.1 ) = 556hp with the 15% drivetrain loss is 83.4 which makes it 472.6rwhp for the stage 1 kit

Which is on par with the s/c stage 1 kits from aa and ess but with the difference of the tq arriving much earlier in the powerband

Again this is the math theory that I came up with
What is the set boost level those kits come at? I think the E46 M3 kit will be around 7-8psi tops. On a conservative estimate I'd say it will represent a 50% increase in power* so 333 X 1.5 = ~500HP X .85 = Approx. 425 RWHP after driveline losses. 425rwhp is realistic IMO, and with the area under the curve of turbo assist on the S54 motor it'll blow the doors off a centri-blower car with 50hp more than that.

Again Nick or Mike, what boost/PSI is this kit tuned upto?? Thx.

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What is the set boost level those kits come at? I think the E46 M3 kit will be around 7-8psi tops. On a conservative estimate I'd say it will represent a 50% increase in power* so 333 X 1.5 = ~500HP X .85 = Approx. 425 RWHP after driveline losses. 425rwhp is realistic IMO, and with the area under the curve of turbo assist on the S54 motor it'll blow the doors off a centri-blower car with 50hp more than that.

Again Nick or Mike, what boost/PSI is this kit tuned upto?? Thx.

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We were targeting ~8psi.
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We were targeting ~8psi.
Hey did you decide on including a manifold with the kit or are you going to run the stock manifold?

Is my math about right give or take?

Also you guys are doing a stage 2 and stage 3?
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Stage 1 is stock motor with factory intake, pump gas, ~8psi. Stage 2 would be a low compression built motor, aluminum intake, and pump gas, boost level TBD.

We are not looking to mass produce a series of stages, however we are also distributors for ProEFI and HPF. That said, we can put together any package you want given the appropriate budget.
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With Hpf stage 1 putting down about 440whp @ 6psi, I would think 8psi would be closer to 480-500whp. These are different turbos though. I guess we shall see when its released.
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Awesome time to release this, as I'm making my continental move this week to California USA!! Really looking forward to putting one of these bad boys on an LSB M3!
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Mike, out of curiosity will you guys have this first turbo'ed E46 M3 at bimmerfest east coming up?
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