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Old 07-16-2012, 12:24 PM   #201
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People at every level of every sport are using PEDs.

I'll just say, when I looked up the top guy, I was very skeptical on how clean he was. Not to take anything away from his hard work, but most people are not going to have genetics supporting that strength/endurance all while being so lean.
He's also said numerous times that he doesn't watch his diet that closely and pretty much just eats whatever and more times than not, very little in a given day.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:32 PM   #202
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from personal experience id have to agree with you guys. the level of intensity you are able to keep up while on it is rediculous. these guys have to do it. everyone needs an edge if they want to win.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:42 PM   #203
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from personal experience id have to agree with you guys. the level of intensity you are able to keep up while on it is rediculous. these guys have to do it. everyone needs an edge if they want to win.
whats your edge?
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:54 PM   #204
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well now its just the knowledge and workout habits i picked up while i had my weight training coach/program/regimen at my community college. id call it a significant edge though. i still have a lot of the strength that i acquired a couple years back.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:54 PM   #205
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well now its just the knowledge and workout habits i picked up while i had my weight training coach/program/regimen at my community college. id call it a significant edge though. i still have a lot of the strength that i acquired a couple years back.
I wanted you to say:

DENSITY.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:55 PM   #206
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:59 PM   #207
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thanks for that info. So do you think most of the top guys are doing it?
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How do they test? Urine? Hair? Lie detector? How far before the games are they tested?
Urine I believe. A few teams were disqualified. They test randomly between regionals and the games so anywhere from 0 - 6 weeks prior to the games.
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Urine I believe. A few teams were disqualified. They test randomly between regionals and the games so anywhere from 0 - 6 weeks prior to the games.
thanks. That makes it pretty clear. Heck, I can't say I wouldn't do it if I were them. But then again, I have no issue with it in sports anyway.
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Urine I believe. A few teams were disqualified. They test randomly between regionals and the games so anywhere from 0 - 6 weeks prior to the games.
Assuming 1) no funny business and 2) they are not all tested at the 6 week mark, this is a pretty tight policy. Most PEDs don't kick in quickly (3-4 weeks) so their only option would be GH and similar, or low enough doses of testosterone to not trip the ratios.
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I don't see what is ridiculous by robbing with a sword.A sword in one od the most lethal wepon !!!

It's more easy to kill with a sword than with a gun.

A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

robbing with a sword is a good thing
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:46 PM   #210
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Assuming 1) no funny business and 2) they are not all tested at the 6 week mark, this is a pretty tight policy. Most PEDs don't kick in quickly (3-4 weeks) so their only option would be GH and similar, or low enough doses of testosterone to not trip the ratios.
Right, but they could be using the rest of the year right as opposed to pro sports where they test randomly year round if I'm not mistaken.

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Right, but they could be using the rest of the year right as opposed to pro sports where they test randomly year round if I'm not mistaken.

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Yeah but do you really want to feel awesome for 46 weeks and then like crap right when it's time to perform? No thanks.
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I don't see what is ridiculous by robbing with a sword.A sword in one od the most lethal wepon !!!

It's more easy to kill with a sword than with a gun.

A sword is more frightening than toy-looking gun like glock.

robbing with a sword is a good thing
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@ 4:28 is that asian dude really wearing a sports bra? or is it some new gear I don't know about
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@ 4:28 is that asian dude really wearing a sports bra? or is it some new gear I don't know about
Frighteningly enough, thats a chick!

I think the saying that "crossfit makes men small and women hot" is generally true, but definitely NOT the case here!

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@ 4:28 is that asian dude really wearing a sports bra? or is it some new gear I don't know about
oh man lol.

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Frighteningly enough, thats a chick!

I think the saying that "crossfit makes men small and women hot" is generally true, but definitely NOT the case here!
This is why I try to eat a lot and incorporate a lot of the heavy lifts too. I feel like to much of the main stuff site and a lot of other boxes ignore this stuff and make a cookie cutter program that incorporates both hard work but also interesting enough to keep your average "member" coming back.
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interesting enough to keep your average "member" coming back.
One of my main dislikes for CF
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Yeah but do you really want to feel awesome for 46 weeks and then like crap right when it's time to perform? No thanks.
would they really notice a huge difference if they slowly came off of it. Wouldn't the whole 40 something weeks on it get them to a better place than not doing it at all?

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exactly. My friend that joined a good box doesn't understand this. The best possible wods would have people dropping like flies. I think my workouts are much more intense than his and I know the average person would be like fuuck that lol

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The problem with most affiliates is they program workouts that are light enough that everyone can do but then they make them a ton of reps since the light weight is too easy for a lot of people.

For example I was at a CF gym a few weeks back and the workout was
21/15/9 of:
95lb Squat cleans
53lb KB swings

I personally see no benefit in doing 45 95lbs squat cleans.

They should have a workout like that written as:

9/7/5 of:
195lb squat cleans
88lb KB swings.

If its too heavy, scale down the weight. It should be hard enough that you probably cant do all of them unbroken. No one wants to hurt anyones feelings though and tell them they aren't strong enough and they have to scale..... Yay for mediocrity!
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The problem with most affiliates is they program workouts that are light enough that everyone can do but then they make them a ton of reps since the light weight is too easy for a lot of people.

For example I was at a CF gym a few weeks back and the workout was
21/15/9 of:
95lb Squat cleans
53lb KB swings

I personally see no benefit in doing 45 95lbs squat cleans.

They should have a workout like that written as:

9/7/5 of:
195lb squat cleans
88lb KB swings.

If its too heavy, scale down the weight. It should be hard enough that you probably cant do all of them unbroken. No one wants to hurt anyones feelings though and tell them they aren't strong enough and they have to scale..... Yay for mediocrity!
100% agree, its not just hurt feelings its also difficult to scale weight. You have to use personal discretion in choosing a weight that is challenging, but less than 195lbs.

That takes time, effort and some gym knowledge (choosing a weight that won't hurt yourself, still effort, etc.).
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Yeah but do you really want to feel awesome for 46 weeks and then like crap right when it's time to perform? No thanks.
even though it is pretty dangerous to take it for 46 weeeks in itself. coming off it for a month or even 2 you still feel the effects of it. no way will they feel like crap until 6+ months after. stuff makes you want to work out frequently. even when you arent on it
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:34 AM   #220
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The problem with most affiliates is they program workouts that are light enough that everyone can do but then they make them a ton of reps since the light weight is too easy for a lot of people.

For example I was at a CF gym a few weeks back and the workout was
21/15/9 of:
95lb Squat cleans
53lb KB swings

I personally see no benefit in doing 45 95lbs squat cleans.

They should have a workout like that written as:

9/7/5 of:
195lb squat cleans
88lb KB swings.

If its too heavy, scale down the weight. It should be hard enough that you probably cant do all of them unbroken. No one wants to hurt anyones feelings though and tell them they aren't strong enough and they have to scale..... Yay for mediocrity!
That's my goal now to make things heavier. It's a different type of exhaustion and most things have to go broken but it's ok. I'm more interested in quality reps then finishing a minute or two faster.

Looking for a wod tonight after some romanian deadlifts. I pressed, squat cleaned, swung a 53lb kb, and box jumped last night so I'd like to not repeat anything there. oh btw after my workout i said to my friend "i wonder if i can still do double unders" since it's been like two weeks and I banged out a pr of 64 unbroken on the first shot lol. Parts of my body were getting tired that never have on the double unders yet haha
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