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View Poll Results: Which kit?
Rogue Engineering $185 two pulleys 21 36.84%
UUC $200 two pulleys 7 12.28%
Turner $250 three pulleys 19 33.33%
Other, please specify. 10 17.54%
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:17 AM   #41
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e46techtuner: Which alternator do you have, Bosch or Valeo? Did you get the Turner kit that came with both alternator pulleys, and they both sat too far forward?
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:33 AM   #42
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For pulleys at this price range what kind of performance increase can one expect? Is there a substantial difference from OEM?
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:51 AM   #43
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None...they are all worthless. You do not have a SC to make a difference. Never put them on any of my cars.

If you want to spend the price for them, and new belts.....that is on you. Hell, if they worked, they would have been on my 911, E46...4.6, 5.9. 5.0, LS1...you name it.

Some things do work on here, but you have to search for them.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:51 AM   #44
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For pulleys at this price range what kind of performance increase can one expect? Is there a substantial difference from OEM?
+7 wheel horse power on a dyno

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Old 06-13-2011, 02:09 AM   #45
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And no................pass on all that crap. Just my 2 cents. But I imagine on my 911.....they will give 14HP...............LOL.

I have wasted THOUSANDS of $$$$$$$ on BMW stuff, some were pretty, some were cool. Regardless...if you have a non-M3...all mods are for looks and sounds. Besides the SprintBooster for automatics that does make a nice driving experience. I do have pics of my mods to post if anyone thinks I never tried the BMW mod route....
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:18 AM   #46
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TURNER, seriously i cant stress it enough the torque on my 325ci it crazy i can even pull on 330ci's well stock ones of course. They turned the car into an animal versus stock form.
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just get the cheapest set. they don't do much of anything on the M52/M54 other than make the steering wheel feel a bit tighter. you'll get a little bit at 6K but if you're expecting to notice much forget it
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None...they are all worthless. You do not have a SC to make a difference. Never put them on any of my cars.

If you want to spend the price for them, and new belts.....that is on you. Hell, if they worked, they would have been on my 911, E46...4.6, 5.9. 5.0, LS1...you name it.

Some things do work on here, but you have to search for them.
Figures. Couldn't really comprehend how aluminum pulleys could do anything more than improve longevity? Outside of a turbo or sc can't imagine really making any huge strides in performance for these cars.

For $200 you might want to get something more substantial like headers, or an intake even Jake
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:51 AM   #48
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Its safe to say after seeing these dynos they play a role for 249 bucks I wont complain
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:04 AM   #49
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Do you have ANY issues with the car running hotter? I know the pulleys force the water pump to turn slower = less coolant being distributed.

Did you have a shop install or DIY?

I'm debating either pulleys first or intake..
I would imagine with the pump turning slower the engine would get up to temp faster but it would just mean the thermostat opens earlier. It's the job of the stat to maintain engine temp, as long as the pump is circulating a reasonable amount of water the stat will just send more to the rad for cooling to maintain the appropriate temp.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:07 AM   #50
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Figures. Couldn't really comprehend how aluminum pulleys could do anything more than improve longevity? Outside of a turbo or sc can't imagine really making any huge strides in performance for these cars.

For $200 you might want to get something more substantial like headers, or an intake even Jake
Aren't they under drive pulleys?
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:27 AM   #51
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Regardless...if you have a non-M3...all mods are for looks and sounds. Besides the SprintBooster for automatics that does make a nice driving experience.
What is this crap?
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And no................pass on all that crap. Just my 2 cents. But I imagine on my 911.....they will give 14HP...............LOL.

I have wasted THOUSANDS of $$$$$$$ on BMW stuff, some were pretty, some were cool. Regardless...if you have a non-M3...all mods are for looks and sounds. Besides the SprintBooster for automatics that does make a nice driving experience. I do have pics of my mods to post if anyone thinks I never tried the BMW mod route....
So a SC on a 323I Is pointless
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:56 AM   #53
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TMS!!!! i installed the tms pulley kit in my car and to be honest im satisfied with it
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TMS!!!! i installed the tms pulley kit in my car and to be honest im satisfied with it
Good to hear as Im waiting for mines any day now.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:14 AM   #55
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So a SC on a 323I Is pointless
supercharger on a 323 will give you 3 times more power then every bolt on you can do together
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:39 AM   #56
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supercharger on a 323 will give you 3 times more power then every bolt on you can do together
Im welaware of that , I was quoting what carcus wrote

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And no................pass on all that crap. Just my 2 cents. But I imagine on my 911.....they will give 14HP...............LOL.

I have wasted THOUSANDS of $$$$$$$ on BMW stuff, some were pretty, some were cool. Regardless...if you have a non-M3...all mods are for looks and sounds. Besides the SprintBooster for automatics that does make a nice driving experience. I do have pics of my mods to post if anyone thinks I never tried the BMW mod route....
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:36 AM   #57
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Jake did you purchase them after all ?
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:06 AM   #58
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my 2 cents, pullies will throw off the engines balance due to the harmonic balancer in the engine. from what i have studied atleast. My professor told me if your willing to change pullies then you will have to get the engine rebalanced.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:39 AM   #59
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Only purpose of e46 pulley kits are eye candy, so go for the one that looks the best to you.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:45 AM   #60
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my 2 cents, pullies will throw off the engines balance due to the harmonic balancer in the engine. from what i have studied atleast. My professor told me if your willing to change pullies then you will have to get the engine rebalanced.

Uhh, not quite sure how you can get there on this statement. It would imply that the pulley system by itself is somehow out of balance... and further, the belt drive, if it was a balancing assembly would (probably) then result in visible waveforms in the belt itself as you run up the rpm scale.

Please revisit your source on this and do some more reading on what a HB design function is....
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