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Driveline, Engine & DME Tuning
Talk about driveline improvements, NA tuning and DME tuning your E46 BMW here. This includes diffs, intakes, exhausts, chips, software and OBD tuning.

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Old 04-06-2012, 11:26 AM   #181
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Ive thought about doing this set up more then once but have always been on the fence about It , So what Im reading right Is that If I have the following , Intake,Full catback (no cats),Pulleys,Intake manifold swap and a shark tune, Adding this will will give me that much more In gains ?

Some have said for the 1500$ Its not worth It on the m52tu

Ive never dynoed the car wich I intend to do some time soon but Im curious as to what my car Is putting out as we speak with these simple mods I have as we stand Intake,Full catback (no cats),Pulleys,Intake manifold swap and a shark tune,
Just so you & everyone else understands, building a high HP / high revving (7000 RPM or more) N/A 2.5L, 2.8L, or 3.0L is a VERY expensive undertaking.

shifty1982 & his 2.5L are what I'd call a special case, why?
Because has something that 99% of us don't have, (besides money) he has a very competent BMW ECU tuner. In this equation, his custom tune is worth its weight in gold. Without it, you have almost nothing, well, a lot less in the bank anyway.

If I owned a 2.5L E46 & wanted more WHP, I'd do it this way:

1) Supercharger, my first choice would be the VF Engineering supercharger for these reasons. A) Most cost effective B) Self contained oiling system C) The supercharger "traction oil" is about $10 per oil change, not $125 or $300 like other brands D) User replaceable supercharger pulley ($78), the supercharger does not need to be sent off to the manufacturer.

2) Header.


************OR************

A nitrous system.


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Old 04-06-2012, 02:10 PM   #182
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Just so you & everyone else understands, building a high HP / high revving (7000 RPM or more) N/A 2.5L, 2.8L, or 3.0L is a VERY expensive undertaking.

shifty1982 & his 2.5L are what I'd call a special case, why?
Because has something that 99% of us don't have, (besides money) he has a very competent BMW ECU tuner. In this equation, his custom tune is worth its weight in gold. Without it, you have almost nothing, well, a lot less in the bank anyway.

If I owned a 2.5L E46 & wanted more WHP, I'd do it this way:

1) Supercharger, my first choice would be the VF Engineering supercharger for these reasons. A) Most cost effective B) Self contained oiling system C) The supercharger "traction oil" is about $10 per oil change, not $125 or $300 like other brands D) User replaceable supercharger pulley ($78), the supercharger does not need to be sent off to the manufacturer.

2) Header.


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A nitrous system.


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I would have done that but wanted to keep my car road legal very hard these days to get car engineerd in nsw Australia
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:13 PM   #183
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I don't know where u live but that's how much cams cost me my tune is a custom tune not a shark
Do you think we can arrange some thing like active where we send you our ecu and you have It programmed /Remapped for us 2.5 m52tu guys ??
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:14 PM   #184
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Just so you & everyone else understands, building a high HP / high revving (7000 RPM or more) N/A 2.5L, 2.8L, or 3.0L is a VERY expensive undertaking.

shifty1982 & his 2.5L are what I'd call a special case, why?
Because has something that 99% of us don't have, (besides money) he has a very competent BMW ECU tuner. In this equation, his custom tune is worth its weight in gold. Without it, you have almost nothing, well, a lot less in the bank anyway.

If I owned a 2.5L E46 & wanted more WHP, I'd do it this way:

1) Supercharger, my first choice would be the VF Engineering supercharger for these reasons. A) Most cost effective B) Self contained oiling system C) The supercharger "traction oil" is about $10 per oil change, not $125 or $300 like other brands D) User replaceable supercharger pulley ($78), the supercharger does not need to be sent off to the manufacturer.

2) Header.


************OR************

A nitrous system.


Good luck,
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Youd go with a VF over an Active and ESS SC
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:17 PM   #185
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Do you think we can arrange some thing like active where we send you our ecu and you have It programmed /Remapped for us 2.5 m52tu guys ??
I could talk to the tuner I would have to ask him its his creation and it cost me 1500 for the tune but I'm sure we could work somthing out
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:21 PM   #186
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Just so you & everyone else understands, building a high HP / high revving (7000 RPM or more) N/A 2.5L, 2.8L, or 3.0L is a VERY expensive undertaking.

shifty1982 & his 2.5L are what I'd call a special case, why?
Because has something that 99% of us don't have, (besides money) he has a very competent BMW ECU tuner. In this equation, his custom tune is worth its weight in gold. Without it, you have almost nothing, well, a lot less in the bank anyway.

If I owned a 2.5L E46 & wanted more WHP, I'd do it this way:

1) Supercharger, my first choice would be the VF Engineering supercharger for these reasons. A) Most cost effective B) Self contained oiling system C) The supercharger "traction oil" is about $10 per oil change, not $125 or $300 like other brands D) User replaceable supercharger pulley ($78), the supercharger does not need to be sent off to the manufacturer.

2) Header.


************OR************

A nitrous system.


Good luck,
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Also I will be sc it one day probly a year or 2 when I do fresh rebuild with forged pistons so my motor lasts and then we will see real hp numbers With the cams I've already put in :p
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I could talk to the tuner I would have to ask him its his creation and it cost me 1500 for the tune but I'm sure we could work somthing out
1500 American ? Canadian ?
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:39 PM   #188
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:07 PM   #189
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:28 PM   #190
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Youd go with a VF over an Active and ESS SC
Yes.

Active, I'm just not a fan.

ESS, I believe makes a great product. They're a lot of E46F members that I trust that run the ESS TS2, for this reason alone I could recommend it to someone that was interested; and probably put them in contact with a forum member who owns one.

For me, I personally like the simplicity & the cost vs HP of the VFE kit for the non M E46, that's the way I'd go.


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Old 04-06-2012, 03:56 PM   #191
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Yes.

Active, I'm just not a fan.

ESS, I believe makes a great product. They're a lot of E46F members that I trust that run the ESS TS2, for this reason alone I could recommend it to someone that was interested; and probably put them in contact with a forum member who owns one.

For me, I personally like the simplicity & the cost vs HP of the VFE kit for the non M E46, that's the way I'd go.


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When I attended BF Maryland Navin took me for a spin In his ts 323i and I was , Feeling the boost kick In at 2k rpms made me fall In .

The only Issue I have Is justifying the price for a 10 yr old car , Is It all that worth It

I do have the Intensions to keep the car so I guess It Is , But the fear of having 198 000 kms (123031.496 mi)Is what scares me and holds me back.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:27 PM   #192
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Just had a look at the VF kit..Not bad at all looks very well constructed and the price sounds good . Will think about this one.
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:39 AM   #193
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Shifty what is your intake set up? Eg. Intake manifold etc etc
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:09 AM   #194
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:02 AM   #195
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Just seeing if any one would be intrested in buying a full street/ race package comes with tuned computer shrick cams full super sprint exauhst system and cold air induction box on my 323 I have 215 rwhp from theses mods they cost me over 10000 at the time but now my car is probly dead after what I hit so was going to take all these parts off before I give it to insurance the tune on the computer is a custom tune from pulse racing just for my car and cams and exauhst setup the headers are custom fit as super sprint headers don't straight fit I want 6000 for this complete package there is also motor sport wheels 19 235
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:10 AM   #196
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:49 AM   #197
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Medium strip some one hit it before me and the keep left sign was missing car was changing lanes went to go around and got air borne up the strip haven't really looked underneath but was a big hit air bags went off and enging split
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damn thats rough sorry to hear
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:11 AM   #199
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Yes I'm not happy all that work I did will be missed but 125i making me smile a bit new project
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do you get the 3l or the 2.5l down under?
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