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Old 01-19-2016, 10:28 AM   #1
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Lead Water in Flint

This is so sad. Govt. at its worse. Several people told them about the lead in the water and they ignored them. Even before the complaints, they knew when they switched the water supply that it would be devastating. smh

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Old 01-19-2016, 02:56 PM   #2
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isn't flint michigan like the worst ghetto of detriot? which is the worst ghetto of the united states.
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:09 PM   #4
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It's an absurd situation now since they're making it into a race issue.

Haven't watched TV in years and stuff like this reminds me why.
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[QUOTE=Lendo;16873405]It's an absurd situation now since they're making it into a race issue.

This is absolutely a race issue. As someone who lives in Michigan and both parents were born and raised in Flint, race and socioeconomics played a big part in the inaction of the government. If this would have happened in a Ann Arbor or Oakland County this would have been fixed before it was even a problem.

I'm not saying that this was a deliberate cover up, but their lack of action and urgency are reflective of the people this directly affects.
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It's an absurd situation now since they're making it into a race issue.

This is absolutely a race issue. As someone who lives in Michigan and both parents were born and raised in Flint, race and socioeconomics played a big part in the inaction of the government. If this would have happened in a Ann Arbor or Oakland County this would have been fixed before it was even a problem.

I'm not saying that this was a deliberate cover up, but their lack of action and urgency are reflective of the people this directly affects.
What is the racial makeup of the government of Flint?
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Is Michigan still part of this country? I thought we offloaded that sh1thole a while ago.
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Are white people involved? Other than Michael Moore? Yeah we don't care.
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the former mayor drank tap water on TV to show people that it's safe to drink

he's pretty much f*ed now
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It's an absurd situation now since they're making it into a race issue.

Haven't watched TV in years and stuff like this reminds me why.
It's possible that it is a race issue. It's more likely that it's an income (or lack thereof) issue. It's certainly probable that it's at least a little of both.

A local govt might have acted like this with the tap water for a bunch of poor white people. Or maybe they wouldn't have. They certainly wouldn't have acted like this for a middle class or high income neighborhood.


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the former mayor drank tap water on TV to show people that it's safe to drink

he's pretty much f*ed now
Depends on how much lead is in the cup he drank, and how much truth is in his claim that he drinks it every day.

An insidious thing about lead in tap water is that you can't cook or boil it away. Unless you filter or distill the water, you'll get a little lead in every glass of water you drink, it'll be in every meal you prepare since almost every meal involves water for cooking, it'll be in every cup of coffee or tea, tiny amounts of it can be left on every plate, spoon, glass, pan, et cetera that you wash in the sink or in the dishwasher. You'll get a little extra when you brush your teeth, just as a bonus.

If the local govt ignored the tests they're claimed to have seen in Fed, and ignored the EPA warning that same month, they'd need to have a pretty good reason in my mind.
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It's possible that it is a race issue. It's more likely that it's an income (or lack thereof) issue. It's certainly probable that it's at least a little of both.

A local govt might have acted like this with the tap water for a bunch of poor white people. Or maybe they wouldn't have. They certainly wouldn't have acted like this for a middle class or high income neighborhood.




Depends on how much lead is in the cup he drank, and how much truth is in his claim that he drinks it every day.

An insidious thing about lead in tap water is that you can't cook or boil it away. Unless you filter or distill the water, you'll get a little lead in every glass of water you drink, it'll be in every meal you prepare since almost every meal involves water for cooking, it'll be in every cup of coffee or tea, tiny amounts of it can be left on every plate, spoon, glass, pan, et cetera that you wash in the sink or in the dishwasher. You'll get a little extra when you brush your teeth, just as a bonus.

If the local govt ignored the tests they're claimed to have seen in Fed, and ignored the EPA warning that same month, they'd need to have a pretty good reason in my mind.
I believe most of the landmark cases such as these have been little podunk white towns. Pinning this on race is a stretch. Poverty very possible.
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No brita?
Most Brita set-ups don't filter lead.
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Most Brita set-ups don't filter lead.
TIL, you are correct. Seems that only the tap filters clean out lead.
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does reverse osmosis not filter out lead? hmm.
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I believe most of the landmark cases such as these have been little podunk white towns. Pinning this on race is a stretch. Poverty very possible.
Just because other people involved in other incidents in other locations haven't necessarily been motivated by racial considerations doesn't mean the govt officers involved in this incident were not.



Assuming the portrayal of their dismissive attitude is accurate, I don't have any evidence that the motivation for inaction was racially motivated. I'm just saying that it's not out of the question.
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TIL, you are correct. Seems that only the tap filters clean out lead.
I've had a Brita Ultramax in my fridge for years and love it. I only know about the lead thing because I went to their website recently to see about a replacement o-ring for the valve and did a little curiosity reading. I never dug deep enough to figure out why the faucet filters remove lead but not mercury and cadmium. Something to do with the tap pressure vs gravity pressure, I guess.


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does reverse osmosis not filter out lead? hmm.
That's a great question.

Distilling the water would remove everything. But A) it's a PITA to do stovetop distillation unless you have specific gear for it and B) if you wash the collection vessel in tap water that contains lead, you can end up with lead (albeit a small amount) back in the distilled water.

It's a friggin mess, which is why we depend on govt/utilities to supply our homes and businesses with tap water that has acceptably low levels of lead.
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Now im curious what my built in fridge filter removes....probably the same stuff as a generic brita....everything BUT lead.
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