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Old 03-31-2008, 01:27 PM   #1
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Time for a Shalghamz moment-of-truth weekly Threadpost.

I've searched far and wide, but can't find any answers, so let's impart some much needed knowledge to the good citizens of BMWland:

I found AutohausAZ is selling Elf motor oil - good stuff from what I've experienced, but how does it match up against BMW Motor Oil? Elf Total Quartz 9000 IS BMW longlife approved...

The oil I'm looking at is Elf Total Quartz 9000 Full Synthetic 0W-30. The picture is for reference, but nevermind the weight you see in the picture, i'm going for the 0W-30 weight.

If anyone has experience with this oil, then let the posting begin!

(PS I heard Mazola and Colavita Oils work well too)

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Old 04-18-2009, 02:54 PM   #2
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Looks like there are no posters for Total Quartz (ELF in Europe) oil. I ran an e36 with 5w 30 Total Quartz to 200k miles. I was impressed by the oil; the engine idled at low rpm's and it ran as smooth as it was new. I now run 10w 40 Total Quartz in my 2004 330i. Car just had its first oil change with the Total (Castrol before). I swear it runs smoother than with the Castrol (bmw recommend). Probably more of a mental thing than anything. My car is also faster after I wash it so there you go. Can anyone else comment on this oil?
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Old 04-18-2009, 05:24 PM   #3
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LL01 approved, should do the job.
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Old 04-18-2009, 05:27 PM   #4
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Its good oil we use it at the shop. My E46 has 251,000 miles on it most of it with quarts oil
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:04 PM   #5
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Oops, I meant 5w40, not 10w40.
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:20 PM   #6
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I use total QUARTZ 9000 ENERGY 0W30 in my 2000 328i and I highly recommend it. It's a fantastic oil. Total is a great company, been around for a long time and if you look at the history, it used to be Elf and they are very involved in motorsports.

Now for my personal experience, I was running Mobil 1 5w-30 (not BMW LL-01 approved) but that's what my shop was using for some reason. It was winter time when I switched over to Total and here's what I noticed. On M1 oil, if the temp had dropped below 0 celcius during the night it was guaranteed that on startup the car would go up to 1000rpm, hesitate then go to 1500rpm then come down to about 1100-1200rpm to warm up. Not smooth at all. When I put in the Total oil I noticed that no matter how cold it got during the night (it was -8 on one night I believe) when it starts in the morning there is absolutely no hesitation, it initially revs to 1500rpm then comes immediately down to about 1100rpm and as it warms up the rpms slowly come down like normal. I noticed the engine runs noticeably smoother with Total than it did with M1. When I picked it up from the shop I was all smiles, the engine felt brand new, it was buttery smooth! After 2500km it's still very smooth.

So yes, I'll be using this oil from now on. Mobil 1 was apparently very good but this oil is fantastic! Some might say that using the 0w over the 5w prob helped with the cold start, while I do agree that the 0w is made for colder temps, I was no where near the lower temp limit of the 5w and I would attribute the better engine start to do with the Total oil being a better oil. I know the Total oil I used is a Group IV synthetic and I believe the Mobil 1 is a Group III synthetic.

PS. I will never use AMS oil or Royal Purple... reminds me way too much of Amway/scam stuff (especially AMS oil). I'd much rather stick with a big manufacturer of oil that has motorsport racing experience, of which Total oils fits the bill rather well!
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:43 PM   #7
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sorry for bumping this old thread, but i was wondering if anybody else has any good experiences with TOTAL/Elf 9000 5w40. im planning to do a tune up soon and might try this out.
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:09 AM   #9
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My experience has been good with Elf and Total so far. I haven't sent a sample in to be analyzed for how it performed, but I can say it is very good at dissolving engine deposits.
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:51 AM   #10
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I use total 5w40. All year round and here it gets pretty cold. -35 on some winter days. I've been using it for 4 years and so can't say I 'feel' any difference but can say no problems with sludge or that matter.

Wish I could get my hands on 0w30 for winter but no shop around me sells it.
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sorry for bumping this old thread, but i was wondering if anybody else has any good experiences with TOTAL/Elf 9000 5w40. im planning to do a tune up soon and might try this out.
You may want to stick with the Energy 0W-30 instead of the 5W-40.
The 0W-30 is spot on for LL-01 with a 40C visc of 68cSt, a 100C of 12cSt, and a viscosity index of 170. Perfect for a street driven M54 regardless of what interval you choose. The 5W-40 is much "thicker" with a 40C of 85cSt, and 100C of 14cSt. It is primarily designed as a "diesel" oil and meets LL-04, and LL-98, but not LL-01. Probably for efficiency reasons. I say try the 0W-30 and do oil analysis to see how it works in YOUR car. Other folks results will be different from yours and if there is no analytical data, its just speculation anyway.
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You may want to stick with the Energy 0W-30 instead of the 5W-40.
The 0W-30 is spot on for LL-01 with a 40C visc of 68cSt, a 100C of 12cSt, and a viscosity index of 170. Perfect for a street driven M54 regardless of what interval you choose. The 5W-40 is much "thicker" with a 40C of 85cSt, and 100C of 14cSt. It is primarily designed as a "diesel" oil and meets LL-04, and LL-98, but not LL-01. Probably for efficiency reasons. I say try the 0W-30 and do oil analysis to see how it works in YOUR car. Other folks results will be different from yours and if there is no analytical data, its just speculation anyway.
Shorty for once about oil you wrong LOL 5w30 is the LL04 spec 5w40 is LL01


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I ran the 0W-30 for 2 oil changes on my car... it ran great no problems. Only reason I use OEM 5W-30 now is that I can get it cheaper than Quartz.

323iINt.o I could get you some quartz energy if you wish. Try looking at a CarQuest store (not sure if they are in TO, but they're a chain like NAPA, PartSource etc), they should carry it or be able to get it for you.

Checked and there are a few around: http://www.carquest.ca/carquest/store_locator_ca.html

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Old 11-19-2010, 02:19 PM   #14
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I ran the 0W-30 for 2 oil changes on my car... it ran great no problems. Only reason I use OEM 5W-30 now is that I can get it cheaper than Quartz.

323iINt.o I could get you some quartz energy if you wish. Try looking at a CarQuest store (not sure if they are in TO, but they're a chain like NAPA, PartSource etc), they should carry it or be able to get it for you.

Checked and there are a few around: http://www.carquest.ca/carquest/store_locator_ca.html
Sweet. Thanks bud. I found a store 8km from my house. Will call them.

Quick question, I pay 35 cash for a 5l jug of 5w40, how much more is the 0w30?
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Old 11-20-2010, 08:29 AM   #15
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Shorty for once about oil you wrong LOL 5w30 is the LL04 spec 5w40 is LL01


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Naw, I've been wrong before...........once or twice .

I'm using an older datasheet for reference, 2007. They have obviously updated since then. I'd still do the 0W-30 for a DD and the 5W-40 for combo hard use/DE/track. It looks like they "thinned down" the 5W-40 a bit from the older formula and may be better for folks who have high fuel dilution issues. The 5W-30 LL-04 is the newer INEO line of low SAPS diesel oils to meet DPF restrictions. Before INEO, it was the Energy 5W-40 that was the brand's diesel pick and my reason for saying the same.

http://matrixsyntheticoils.com/datas..._9000_0W30.pdf

http://matrixsyntheticoils.com/datas..._9000_5W40.pdf

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Old 11-20-2010, 09:02 AM   #16
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I would go with a thicker LL-01 version (5-40) but total quartz kicks a$$ and takes names. Trying the racing version on M3 now and will run Blackstone reports to see how it compares to the RedLine fluid.
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I`m using the Total 9000 thing oil.I`ve being using it in my diesel Vw and Now in my 320i! very smooth for both engines, 1 qt added every 4-5000 km!planning on changing my oil nxt week and i`m going to the same brand
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Quartz 0/30 has been in mine for 5K miles. Not a drop is missing and the car hasn't complained.

I'm thinking of going to the Quartz 5/40 (yes, LL-01), or Fuchs 5/40 (LL-98...don't tell anyone that I'm even thinking about this)!

I suspect I'll get slightly worse mpgs with heavier oil, and I don't burn any, but just think my car might like a little change...still have 5K miles to decide, though!
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I use that oil, 5w30, my car drives great so i give it a thumbs up!
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