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Old 06-03-2013, 11:57 AM   #1
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Report: How GOP lost young voters

From Politico: www.politico.com/story/2013/06/gop-youth-vote-report-92119.html

By KATIE GLUECK | 6/2/13 6:00 PM EDT Updated: 6/3/13 10:03 AM EDT

A new postmortem on the November elections from the nation's leading voice for college Republicans offers a searing indictment of the GOP "brand" and the major challenges the party faces in wooing young voters, according to a copy given exclusively to POLITICO on Sunday.

The College Republican National Committee on Monday made public a detailed report - the result of extensive polling and focus groups - dissecting what went wrong for Republicans with young voters in the 2012 elections and how the party can improve its showing with that key demographic in the future.

It's not a pretty picture. In fact, it's a "dismal present situation," the report says.

The 95-page study, which looked at the party's views on social and economic issues, as well as its messaging and outreach, echoes a March report on the election debacle issued by Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, which presented a devastating assessment of the party's current state of affairs.

But in some ways the new report from inside the GOP tent is even more scathing and ominous - since it comes from the party's next generation.

Titled the "Grand Old Party for a Brand New Generation," the report is sharply critical of the GOP on several fronts. The study slams some Republicans' almost singular focus on downsizing Big Government and cutting taxes; candidates' use of offensive, polarizing rhetoric; and the party's belly-flop efforts at messaging and outreach, even as the report presents a way forward and, at times, strikes an optimistic tone.

In the report, the young Republican activists acknowledge their party has suffered significant damage in recent years. A sampling of the critique on:

Gay marriage: "On the 'open-minded' issue ... [w]e will face serious difficulty so long as the issue of gay marriage remains on the table."

Hispanics: "Latino voters ... tend to think the GOP couldn't care less about them."

Perception of the party's economic stance: "We've become the party that will pat you on your back when you make it, but won't offer you a hand to help you get there."

Big reason for the image problem: The "outrageous statements made by errant Republican voices."

Words that up-for-grabs voters associate with the GOP: "The responses were brutal: closed-minded, racist, rigid, old-fashioned."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2VAn5U3xu

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Rhumb: Do note, these words and sentiments are from young Republicans themselves, in a survey done by the GOP, so no, not some "skewed" or slanted piece by some commie liberals or something.

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Old 06-04-2013, 08:33 AM   #2
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I'm not surprised. Only a matter of time before Republicans lose the religious vote too.
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I'm not surprised. Only a matter of time before Republicans lose the religious vote too.
I think they're in a bit of a rock and a hard place on this (and other issues). If they take a more moderate and accomodating stance on social issues, they run the risk of alienating their core evangelical social-conservative base who see the GOP as a vehicle for instituting a quasi-theocracy.

I think the base are already a bit dismayed on the social conservative front regarding the GOP in that despite all the bluster, mainly using social issues opportunistically as a political bludgeon, they really haven't tried or been able to institute a whole lot of substance to try to stem the ever rising tide of increasing social liberalism of the country, particularly its young (GOP young included). However, neither can the GOP continue to alienate younger voters, even its own young members as the study clearly showed, and hope to remain a significant political force into the future.

I think a lot of social/religious conservative groups, soured of the experiment in intertwining church and state, may want to disentangle themselves from the messy gray world of politics, which, in the end I think would be good for both their churches and for politics. I think T. Jefferson's sentiments on keeping these two social institutions seperate, for the benefit of both as they tend to be corrupting and damaging to each other if mixed, is the correct one that seems to have to be relearned from time to time.
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I think they're in a bit of a rock and a hard place on this (and other issues). If they take a more moderate and accomodating stance on social issues, they run the risk of alienating their core evangelical social-conservative base who see the GOP as a vehicle for instituting a quasi-theocracy.
The GOP needs to take the same approach to the evangelical base that the DNC took with the hardcore tree hugging uder-libs. Change their stance to a moderate, we believe in freedom of choice and the rights of individuals. This gives them the more moderate stand they are going to need with young voters on social issues.

The fact is, they are not going to alienate the evangelical base that much. That evangelical base is conservative. They are unlikely to switch to the DNC if the GOP takes more moderate stand on social issues. A small splinter group will form and possibly create political party similar to what the hardcore treehuggers did with the Green Party. But, they will be a non-factor.

The religious right is unlikely to vote democrat. All the GOP has to be is less liberal than the DNC and the evangelical vote will still swing to them.
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The ones who would've voted republican are now voting libertarian though. I think if Rand Paul runs on the republican ticket he could do really well with young voters.
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The GOP needs to take the same approach to the evangelical base that the DNC took with the hardcore tree hugging uder-libs. Change their stance to a moderate, we believe in freedom of choice and the rights of individuals. This gives them the more moderate stand they are going to need with young voters on social issues.

The fact is, they are not going to alienate the evangelical base that much. That evangelical base is conservative. They are unlikely to switch to the DNC if the GOP takes more moderate stand on social issues. A small splinter group will form and possibly create political party similar to what the hardcore treehuggers did with the Green Party. But, they will be a non-factor.

The religious right is unlikely to vote democrat. All the GOP has to be is less liberal than the DNC and the evangelical vote will still swing to them.
I see the GOP of today in a fairly analogous position where the Dems where in the 80's, tied to a tired, moribund and increasingly dated and irrelevant ideology that is quickly losing broad appeal. In the process, they were losing a string of national and even local level elections over the years (sound familiar GOP?).

Like the Dems back then, lacking any real new fresh policies and approaches with broader appeal, they are forced to clinging to their core bases for fear of losing what influence they still have. I think the GOPs aggressive gerrymandering and voter suppression (let's call it for what it is) efforts are but symptomatic of this. Legislatively (on the national level), they are essentially left with tactics of obstructionism and hostage taking (as practiced in various fiscal bills) to prevent the other side passing almost anything as their own policies lack enough popular appeal to thrive on their own.

The Dems did finally have to look forward and outward rather than backwards and inwards, casting off old, moldering policies and developing a more pragmatic centrist approach. Bill Clinton was the outgrowth of this effort as was the Democratic Study Group and other modernizing entities. A keystone event of this time was, working with the GOP, the vast overhaul of the welfare system, one that adopted many GOP and conservative concepts.

The GOP will, eventually, have to do much the same thing, evolve forwards and outwards rather than retreating inwards and backwards into an ossified, rigid and tired ideology, demanding ever stricter orthodoxy from its members. The two GOP 2012 post-mortems are good efforts to at least more clearly identifying their problems, but the solutions offered are still a bit weak and fuzzy at best and despite the 2012 drubbing in an election that should have been theirs to lose, which they did, I'm not sure there's enough realization in the ranks that real and deep change is necessary. There is still way too much fallback on short term tactics (gerrymandering, voter suppression, obstructionism, inflated "scandals," etc.) and shallow marketing/PR bromides rather than doing the intellectual and organizational heavy lifting.

I predict a few more years of wandering in the desert, and a few more disappointing or disastrous election cycles before the realization soaks in deeply enough for them to truly revamp, update and modernize. It took the Dems 10-15 years and the GOP is only a few years into this now.

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The ones who would've voted republican are now voting libertarian though. I think if Rand Paul runs on the republican ticket he could do really well with young voters.
Rand Paul sounds good in theory, but he's kind of all over the place trying to appease everyone so who knows what his actual positions are going to be?
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Did the GOP ever have young voters? Every stupid kid is a liberal, I voted Clinton (nor do I regret it).
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The GOP has lost younger voters because it is far easier to mock. You can make fun of bigots far easier than you can clueless hippies.

To make a come back, the GOP needs to get off religious issues and focus on getting the economy back on track. Frankly, Romney should have answered every socially centric question with "let's focus on the important stuff".

After all, Romney in office would NOT have meant the return of slavery, the end of abortion, or a lessening of gay rights.
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After all, Romney in office would NOT have meant the return of slavery, the end of abortion, or a lessening of gay rights.
Nor would it have meant a vastly different or vastly improved economy since they clearly don't have a great handle on that, either, historically speaking.

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Did the GOP ever have young voters? Every stupid kid is a liberal, I voted Clinton (nor do I regret it).
If anything I think they have MORE young voters now than they did even 10 years ago.
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Nor would it have meant a vastly different or vastly improved economy since they clearly don't have a great handle on that, either, historically speaking
Clinton's fiscal successes were largely a result of Newt getting the cooperation amongst Republicans to further the success founded by Bush Sr. Making comments like this with little more than W in mind is just goofy.
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Clinton's fiscal successes were largely a result of Newt getting the cooperation amongst Republicans to further the success founded by Bush Sr. Making comments like this with little more than W in mind is just goofy.
I should have specified, historically they may have a few diamonds in the rough. However, in looking at the most recent history of the PARTY they are anything but fiscally conservative.

And to the Newt comment, there are many more complexities to that than you like to reveal, it seems. It's wasn't Newt in shining armor leading the charge to the golden economy, not by a long shot.
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I should have specified, historically they may have a few diamonds in the rough. However, in looking at the most recent history of the PARTY they are anything but fiscally conservative.
ain't that the truth!
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Re: Report: How GOP lost young voters

I have solely voted GOP since I was 18. Don't regret it either to be honest. Its definitely based on your environmental upbringing. I would say I'm a conservative overall leaning towards Libertarian at this point. I have moved away from considering myself a Republican since 2004 sadly. Too many Good Old Boy Club mentality in the GOP.

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Did the GOP ever have young voters? Every stupid kid is a liberal...
How about the smart kids? How about adult women, gays and minorities? How about all the adult men who vote Democrat as well?


It's stupid and superficial explanations like that alienate voters and further the group think.


Democrats certainly have a more progressive platform than their Republican counter parts and studies have demonstrated that younger individuals are more open to accepting change than their older adult counterparts. Therefore, it is not unreasonable to argue that the current GOP platform is not attractive to a younger demographics, thus significantly hurting their chances at winning elections.

Instead... we get your explanation... they're stupid kids.
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Perhaps If those on the right actually started treating the majority of Americans(voters) with due respects and regard rather than constantly demeaning and disparaging them they might succeed a bit better politically.
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Perhaps If those on the right actually started treating the majority of Americans(voters) with due respects and regard rather than constantly demeaning and disparaging them they might succeed a bit better politically.
Maybe. But perhaps people need to not be so offended easily either.
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Maybe. But perhaps people need to not be so offended easily either.
Certainly, because GOP social stances and actions should never be taken personally.
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Maybe. But perhaps people need to not be so offended easily either.
Perhaps people need to stop looking at valid criticism as people being offended.
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