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Old 05-01-2013, 10:01 AM   #181
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Actually they used to say it was 1998

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/01/...main-stagnant/

Keep moving those goalposts
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Depending how you measure it, 1998 IS one of the TEN hottest years on record and each of the last 12 years is one of the 14 hottest years on record:
2012 marks the 36th consecutive year (since 1976) that the annual temperature was above the long-term average. Currently, the warmest year on record is 2010, which was 0.66°C (1.19°F) above average. Including 2012, all 12 years to date in the 21st century (2001–2012) rank among the 14 warmest in the 133-year period of record. Only one year during the 20th century—1998—was warmer than 2012. The global annual temperature has increased at an average rate of 0.06°C (0.11°F) per decade since 1880 and at an average rate of 0.16°C (0.28°F) per decade since 1970.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2012/13
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:30 AM   #182
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What is climatedepot.com?

Depending how you measure it, 1998 IS one of the TEN hottest years on record and each of the last 12 years is one of the 14 hottest years on record:
2012 marks the 36th consecutive year (since 1976) that the annual temperature was above the long-term average. Currently, the warmest year on record is 2010, which was 0.66°C (1.19°F) above average. Including 2012, all 12 years to date in the 21st century (2001–2012) rank among the 14 warmest in the 133-year period of record. Only one year during the 20th century—1998—was warmer than 2012. The global annual temperature has increased at an average rate of 0.06°C (0.11°F) per decade since 1880 and at an average rate of 0.16°C (0.28°F) per decade since 1970.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2012/13
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:41 AM   #183
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What is climatedepot.com?

Depending how you measure it, 1998 IS one of the TEN hottest years on record and each of the last 12 years is one of the 14 hottest years on record:
2012 marks the 36th consecutive year (since 1976) that the annual temperature was above the long-term average. Currently, the warmest year on record is 2010, which was 0.66°C (1.19°F) above average. Including 2012, all 12 years to date in the 21st century (2001-2012) rank among the 14 warmest in the 133-year period of record. Only one year during the 20th century-1998-was warmer than 2012. The global annual temperature has increased at an average rate of 0.06°C (0.11°F) per decade since 1880 and at an average rate of 0.16°C (0.28°F) per decade since 1970.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2012/13
How far does that "record" go back Mr. Science? The point was about the chicken littles running around, not the temp of 1998-1999
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:34 AM   #184
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How far does that "record" go back Mr. Science? The point was about the chicken littles running around, not the temp of 1998-1999
Apparently, for you, misinterpreting the information of only a decade is enough to debunk global warming...
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Apparently, you are some sort of warlock that KNOWS global warming is a fact and that humanity has impacted the temperature. So why are the oceans warming up?
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For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.

From: What has global warming done since 1998?

No, it hasn't been cooling since 1998. Even if we ignore long term trends and just look at the record-breakers, that wasn't the hottest year ever. Different reports show that, overall, 2005 was hotter than 1998. What's more, globally, the hottest 12-month period ever recorded was from June 2009 to May 2010.

Though humans love record-breakers, they don't, on their own, tell us a much about trends -- and it's trends that matter when monitoring Climate Change. Trends only appear by looking at all the data, globally, and taking into account other variables -- like the effects of the El Nino ocean current or sunspot activity -- not by cherry-picking single points.

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There's also a tendency for some people just to concentrate on air temperatures when there are other, more useful, indicators that can perhaps give us a better idea how rapidly the world is warming. Oceans for instance -- due to their immense size and heat storing capability (called 'thermal mass') -- tend to give a much more 'steady' indication of the warming that is happening. Here records show that the Earth has been warming at a steady rate before and since 1998 and there's no signs of it slowing any time soon.

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Land, atmosphere, and ice heating (red), 0-700 meter ocean heat content (OHC) increase (light blue), 700-2,000 meter OHC increase (dark blue). From Nuccitelli et al. (2012).
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As I stated a few pages back:

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There are over 50 years of documented evidence showing an increase in ocean temperatures in addition to the overall sea level. As water is heated it expands, thus the increase in sea level. Oceans have the ability to absorb considerable amounts of heat. In the context of this discussion that equates to greenhouse gases. This ability to absorb heat helps to mask the short-term increases in surface temperature.

However, as ocean temperatures rise their ability to absorb additional heat diminishes. And what then happens an increase in surface temperatures will follow.
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Here is a summary of global warming and climate change myths, sorted by recent popularity vs what science says. A good resource for clearly and coherently debunking the easily debunked.
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https://uwaterloo.ca/news/news/globa...ide-study-says

Canada University of Waterloo Study: Global warming caused by CFC's not CO2



Interesting, surely to be dismissed since you can't control people by controlling CFC's
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UK? Do you even read what you post?
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UK? Do you even read what you post?
Glad to see that's all you got.
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Glad to see that's all you got.
Clearly, you've debunked decades of research while confusing Canada and UK.
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Interesting article, probably worth following up with further studies, but in the meantime, I'll be rather conservative (in the non-political sense) and stick with the vast consensus of climate scientists in ascribing most global warming to CO2.
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