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Old 02-25-2013, 10:08 PM   #1721
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Haha yep! That's why I mentioned it. Like I said, knowing all of the little components that go into shoulder development and movement I just can't see how that can be good for it. I have more leniency towards ring dips for the obvious fact of it being less restrictive. I would try those.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:18 PM   #1722
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Not sure how you can know that dips aren't bad for you, unless you are some kind of sports therapist. Aside from shoulder impingement and the fact that you basically can stretch your long and short head of your biceps tendon, as well as it being the source of labrum tears. Like I said, just my opinion. But I've had shoulder problems from baseball all of my life. Take it with a grain of salt. Just should make sure your rotator cuff and scapulae are strong enough to handle it
i can see where you are coming from. I played baseball and pitched for 6 yrs of my life and I can make my shoulder click on command. I've never had issues with dips and it helps my bench out a ton so Im sticking to it. I cant bash rings either since ive never done em. I just think ppl who are starting out stray away from the good movements like benching and dipping just cause they hear they are bad for your shoulders and other nonsense that might not be true.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:02 AM   #1723
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I mean, I generally stay away from bench period, but I'm completely a strength and mobility guy. I just don't incorporate chest in with my workouts. Everyone's got their own style!
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:36 AM   #1724
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I mean, I generally stay away from bench period, but I'm completely a strength and mobility guy. I just don't incorporate chest in with my workouts. Everyone's got their own style!


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Old 02-26-2013, 09:48 AM   #1725
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:36 AM   #1726
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:56 PM   #1727
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I went back to try the dips again. Found some parallel bars that were a bit wider, maybe that was it.

I just did one set, wanna save my energy for Chest day
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:50 AM   #1728
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How wide of a grip do you guys do on flat barbell bench?

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Wiki "The outer ends are 50 millimetres (2.0 in) in diameter, while the grip section is 28 millimetres (1.1 in) in diameter, and 1.31 metres (4.3 ft) in length. The bars have grip marks spaced 910 millimetres (36 in) apart to allow intuitive grip width measurement."
I'm 6'2 with for flat barbell I think I line up with my ring fingers. Incline barbell Ill line up with my index fingers.

In your experience, how much will an inch inward or outward have on the development of your pecs?
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:55 AM   #1729
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How wide of a grip do you guys do on flat barbell bench?



I'm 6'2 with for flat barbell I think I line up with my ring fingers. Incline barbell Ill line up with my index fingers.

In your experience, how much will an inch inward or outward have on the development of your pecs?
It depends on how long your appendages are. Where I grip the bar for proper travel may be different than you. Find the grip position that allows your wrists to be inline with your elbows (..90 degrees or slightly below) at the bottom end of your travel. You should look more or less like this:

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Yeah sometimes you'll use a bar with different markings but I'll still find my comfortable position.

My wingspan is 74"

I asked this question because I think I might be going to narrow, but will ring finger to index finger really make that much of a difference?
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:21 AM   #1731
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I've always lined my pinkies up with the bar rings, feels good. I'm 6'0
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:56 AM   #1732
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Yeah sometimes you'll use a bar with different markings but I'll still find my comfortable position.

My wingspan is 74"

I asked this question because I think I might be going to narrow, but will ring finger to index finger really make that much of a difference?
If your arms look like upside down "7's" at the bottom part of the movement, your hand placement is too narrow. They shold look like "L's"!


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I've always lined my pinkies up with the bar rings, feels good. I'm 6'0
Not all bar rings are placed in the same position. My gym has 3 different 45 lb. bars and each one has rings at different places; one doesn't have rings at all. The one that doesn't have rings at all is slightly smaller in terms of circumference (..and the knurling is less aggressive), so I use it for power cleans.

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How wide of a grip do you guys do on flat barbell bench?



I'm 6'2 with for flat barbell I think I line up with my ring fingers. Incline barbell Ill line up with my index fingers.

In your experience, how much will an inch inward or outward have on the development of your pecs?
really doesnt matter. find the grip that lets you lift the most weight, that will help the development the best.

Wider grips shorten the distance the bar has to travel. It also requires more shoulder activation than a more narrow grip.

narrower grips let you use triceps more, maybe save your shoulders if thats a problem for you.

Find whats best for you.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:07 PM   #1734
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really doesnt matter. find the grip that lets you lift the most weight, that will help the development the best.

Wider grips shorten the distance the bar has to travel. It also requires more shoulder activation than a more narrow grip.

narrower grips let you use triceps more, maybe save your shoulders if thats a problem for you.

Find whats best for you.
That's not necessarily true, and that's the kind of advice that is going to get somebody killed on the bench pressed (..not literally, but you know what I mean). There is, in fact, "proper" placement for the bench press.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:13 PM   #1735
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Wouldn't your shoulders be used more with a narrow grip? As in, you'd be using more range of motion with your shoulders?
Although I suppose a wide grip maybe puts more stress on them, because of arm angle..

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Old 02-27-2013, 01:17 PM   #1736
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Wouldn't your shoulders be used more with a narrow grip? As in, you'd be using more range of motion with your shoulders?
Although I suppose a wide grip maybe puts more stress on them, because of arm angle..
Sometimes you guys make me think you're gym noobs. Now I know why some of you can't make decent strides with your bench press. It's the lack of proper form!

What DOES put more [unnecessary] stress on your shoulders is benching with your arms/shoulders rather than incorporating your back and legs into the movement, and also bad posture on the bench. I posted a Smitty Diesel "How to bench press" video about a week ago. That demonstrates the proper way to bench.

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I was looking at ways to build the inner chest more, but after reading a bunch, people say it's impossible. It comes with time and size. But there are those who stress cable flys.

This was posted for reference, he brings the bar almost down to his neck [2:15] to target more upper part.

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Old 02-27-2013, 01:21 PM   #1738
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I was looking at ways to build the inner chest more, but after reading a bunch, people say it's impossible. It comes with time and size. But there are those who stress cable flys.

This was posted for reference, he brings the bar almost down to his neck [2:15] to target more upper part.


Seriously sweetbro858? You post THAT video.


Look, if you want "inner chest", you need to build an actual chest first. The bigger your overall pec, the better your inner chest will look. Cable fly movements are great for contracting/isolating, but your overall pec mass will be built with the barbell and dumbbell presses.

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Old 02-27-2013, 01:23 PM   #1739
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I posted a Smitty Diesel "How to bench press" video about a week ago. That demonstrates the proper way to bench.
In the "how much can you bench" thread?
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:25 PM   #1740
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