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Old 04-04-2012, 03:08 PM   #1
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umnitza orion lite question

both rings are wired into a little silver box, whats is it and what's the need? can't i just cut the pink and white wires and connect to the leads on my old system? just replacing the rings
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just installed my orion lites a couple days ago. pretty sure its a ballast. cant help with whether you should cut them or not.
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Pretty sure it reduces the voltage coming to the LED's. Why get rid of it? My advice is to leave em as they came from the vendor.
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use the boxes. otherwise the product will fail
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well that's done, but they don't look like they are opaque, and i can't even take a pic to post, when looking at them they are lit up fine, but in my camera they are continuously flashing............anyone ever seen this?
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:41 PM   #6
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The flashing is a trick of the camera. All LEDs that are filmed or photographed do that and the silver box reduces the power coming in so they don't blow I believe
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interesting, the mycarrs i had didn't do that in the camera.......................soooooooooo how does umnitza have pics? special camera?
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Were your mycarrs led? And yea they probably use a dslr camera and slow down or speed up the shutter, I'm not sure which
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yes, i see
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so i did some searching, and guess what

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-LED-SMD-A...73cf3b&vxp=mtr

packaging, construction, all items, wiring, same exact thing, and i mean EXACTLY

AND, i wouldn't have had to pay $35 extra for "opaque" and shipping

posted this so you guys can see for yourselves, knocking a vendor or not




are you that ebay seller umnitza? if so , why are you charging members here more than ebay?

maybe you could refund me me the " opaque" extra and shipping if you are..................but i wont hold my breathe



if you're not that vendor, why are you claiming these are "yours"?

either way i feel the members here deserve an explanation
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so i did some searching, and guess what

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-LED-SMD-A...73cf3b&vxp=mtr

packaging, construction, all items, wiring, same exact thing, and i mean EXACTLY

AND, i wouldn't have had to pay $35 extra for "opaque" and shipping posted this so you guys can see for yourselves, knocking a vendor or not are you that ebay seller umnitza? if so , why are you charging members here more than ebay?

maybe you could refund me me the " opaque" extra and shipping if you are..................but i wont hold my breathe

if you're not that vendor, why are you claiming these are "yours"?

either way i feel the members here deserve an explanation
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We charge $69.99 for the product $19.99 for opaque.
We do not sell on eBay. What other vendors do or don't charge depends on their overhead and not ours. Perhaps that eBay vendor you listed lives in his mother's basement, doesn't have employees to pay for, or facilities to pay for, or sponsor a forum on which you can ask questions and get replies, or support E46fanatics for 10+ years.

We have never claimed that the Orion Lite is anything but a good generic alternative to the Orion V2 <-- the better quality product.

The Opaque does indeed have that frosty covering over it. While the non-opaque generic rings shows the LED more obviously. It's possible the eBay vendor mislabeled theirs or is actually providing photos of one item and shipping another very similar looking product. (Opaque and non-Opaque look very similar).

These are non-Opaque


When buying on eBay you are assured that once you provide feedback for an item, that you will rarely receive continuing support for a product should it ever fail. Preliminary costs of a product aren't the total cost of ownership. Your decision to buy from us could not and should not be entirely about price.
Personally, I'd pay $20 more for an item not to have to purchase it on eBay. One never knows if the eBay vendors are getting rid of inventory, selling returned items, etc.

Turner and BavAuto are great companies, we readily use them to purchase items that we can get cheaper (that are exactly the same) just to have the peace of mind that the company we buy from has been around for a long time (in our case 11+ years) and will be there if we run into issues.

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That's not Umnitza, but I did get my AEs from them. They're the same as Orion Lite, Helios, etc. Just like how the old Orion Lites were the same as the old Khoalty, etc. etc.
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like i said, those ebay ones are EXACTLY what you sent me, not only the packing, but all the items, right down to the wire color and clear wire cover on the pink lead, the connect clips, on and on

yeah, i payed for service all right

lets see, i payed $12 for leds that are too big for the license plate holders, claiming they fit is bs, i'm not stupid and i'm not breaking my tabs to make "your" product fit

then i payed $90 plus $14 shipping for something i could have got on ebay for $65

yep, you sure are helping out the forum members on a forum you are a vendor on aren't you?

don't worry bout it, keep the $50, i'll get my "service" elsewhere

that's what trying to do the right thing and use a vendor gets ya, what a sham




you have a good weekend too ya crook,unless you wana redeem yourself and refund me the "opaque" markup ....$20, even then i'll never buy from you again, but maybe the members could see paying for "service" is worth it
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pm deleted, and no reason to take convo elsewhere, if that's what you need to do to pull a profit and pay for your overhead so be it...........i've said my piece

just annoys me to no end when i try and do the right thing, use a vendor, and find it cheaper elsewhere, if we support them they should support us, that ebay seller isn't giving it away either

so for the record, how long is the full replacement on these for the inflated price?

the mycarrs i had from eas lasted 4 yrs until one ring went on the blink............why pay more for something that most likely wont fail in a yr anyhow?
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There you go, Orion Lite. Ali Express is the B2C version of Alibaba (B2B). The same angel eyes are available for significantly less at volume, so chances are the markup from Umnitza at $70 is between 100-300%.
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There you go, Orion Lite. Ali Express is the B2C version of Alibaba (B2B). The same angel eyes are available for significantly less at volume, so chances are the markup from Umnitza at $70 is between 100-300%.
Yup Buy direct avoid the middle-man. Buy 5 for the price of 1 and provide yourself with your own warranty... LOL

Been sporting "opaques" since before they were even offered by the middle-"MAN".
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to wasp9166; the ebay angel eyes are NOT identical to the umnitza ones.; i actually had those ebay ones on my m3 (which im about to put up for sale if anyone's interested). i got it from the same seller you linked, and if you look closely at the pictures the ebay ones have half the amount of leds in there.
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As for silver box...in Europe we wire AEs differently than you guys (some of us, that is...) we use city lights wiring and just use AEs instead of city lights, so in that case there's no need for relays and such, unless you want AEs on via unlock. AEs are simply turned on with position-1 of light switch. But city lights are monitored by LCM for failures. Those silver boxes serve as error cancelers. Without them, one would get bulb out error.
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