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Old 09-03-2011, 02:40 PM   #1
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How to "unsoften" 330ci

so I got mi 330ci for couple of weeks now and I can't help this thought. We have a e36 316ti soft top as a family mule car. I had some fun with it until I got e46. And even though I know and see how "technologically superior" e46 is, I really love how raw, mechanical and rough e36 felt in everything. I mean throttle, clutch engagement, how I felt cars weight shift back for a second on every gear shift and sound of squeaking tires when shifting to second gear even with 1.6 liter "not even 100hp" engine, etc. So the question is: what can I do to bring e46 "technology-y smooth" feel at least closer to e36 pure mechanical feel. And please don't bother with comments like "go trade your car for e36 then" etc

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Old 09-03-2011, 02:54 PM   #2
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not much for the throttle, its a drive-by-wire unit
you can install a sprint booster.
http://www.sprintboostersales.com/de...ies&engine=Gas or Diesel

have you done a clutch delay valve?
http://www.diymybmw.com/e46/clutch-d...ve-cdv-delete/

and some springs to stiffen things up.
http://performance-suspension.eibach...ookup_products

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Old 09-03-2011, 03:04 PM   #3
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Think u mean clutch delay valve delete. Deleting the entire clutch makes the car hard to drive
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:08 PM   #4
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Think u mean clutch delay valve delete. Deleting the entire clutch makes the car hard to drive
JESUS! thats two posts ive screwed up today!
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:40 PM   #5
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not much for the throttle, its a drive-by-wire unit
you can install a sprint booster.
http://www.sprintboostersales.com/de...ies&engine=Gas or Diesel

have you done a clutch delay valve?
http://www.diymybmw.com/e46/clutch-d...ve-cdv-delete/

and some springs to stiffen things up.
http://performance-suspension.eibach...ookup_products

hope this helps.
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first two suggestions were certainly something to look at. My car is already standing on 19" ACSs so I really don't wanna stiffen up the ride anymore

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Old 09-03-2011, 04:47 PM   #6
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I thought the 01s weren't drive by wire?
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:49 PM   #7
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I thought the 01s weren't drive by wire?
judging by the throttle lag, yes they are
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first two suggestions were certainly something to look at. My car is already standing on 19" ACSs so I really don't wanna stiffen up the ride anymore



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They dont stiffen up your ride, if anything it will make it ride rough.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:50 PM   #9
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if i recall the 2001 year got the "over boosted" steering so you might want to look into that. maybe change to power pullies that will make it feel not so boosted aswell.

otherwise loose some of the car's weight and see if you like the feel of it wilth DSC off driving.

and yes in 2001 with the M54, they all got the drive by wire

CDV as mentioned is a biggie
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:02 PM   #11
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First steps taken. Found and unplugged with great pleasure the DSC fuse. This bastard humiliated me on many traffic light race start offs. This is small step for a man, giant leap for the purpose
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Try stiffer suspension and a clutch delay valve delete.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:44 PM   #13
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Update your ECU
Make sure your DISA Valve works
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and get rid of your CDV valve if you have one
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Try stiffer suspension and a clutch delay valve delete.
Stiff suspension is great and all but I want to boost control responses, rather than just try to make car stiffer.


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and get rid of your CDV valve if you have one
As I was told by dealer the car had ECU remap, I do see it going all the way to 7k rpm, but dunno how to check what else did remap include. Plus I don't think m52s have DISA anything, especially I6s.
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Uh what? Why? There's a button that turns it off
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Uh what? Why? There's a button that turns it off
I know but my button for some ungodly reason doesn't turn off dsc after car has been running for a while. It only does if I have turned it off when I start the car. So it's impossible to quickly disable it on quick encounters which happen to me all the time. I was disabling it every time I was going somewhere, so I just saved me a button pressing time
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M52's don't have a disa valve. The m52tu and your m54 does. I wouldn't take the dealership's word on the ecu remap without showing proof.
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I know but my button for some ungodly reason doesn't turn off dsc after car has been running for a while. It only does if I have turned it off when I start the car. So it's impossible to quickly disable it on quick encounters which happen to me all the time. I was disabling it every time I was going somewhere, so I just saved me a button pressing time
Umm, i think its because its throwing codes of some sort?
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Stiff suspension is great and all but I want to boost control responses, rather than just try to make car stiffer.
It's kind of hard to do what you ask with the drive by wire and the self-adjusting clutch. If you have the money, you could change the clutch with one that doesn't have the self adjusting feature, and a lighter flywheel, but that's just about it. The drive-by-wire throttle slow response isn't easily fixable, but it isn't horrible compared to many cars and will improve slightly with aggressive throttle input.
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