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The E46 XI was produced from 01-05 in sedan and touring body styles. Powered by either a 2.5L inline 6 in the 325xi or a 3.0L inline 6 330xi. Discuss all thing about BMW AWD E46 'Xi' here.

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Old 09-11-2011, 09:24 PM   #1
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A-1 Cardone vs Cardone select difference?

Looking to get a new front L axle on rockauto and there is an A-1 cardone and a cardone select.

The select one is cheaper and has no core. Otherwise i'd figure the select was a better version.

Also the select one doesnt say reman.

CARDONE SELECT Part # 669281
A-1 CARDONE Part # 609281 Reman.

Any ideas? What the hell?
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:26 PM   #2
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Ok looking at the cardone website the a-1 is rebuilt and the select is new.

Should i get a rebuilt or new axle? The rebuilt is more. Is that the one everyone else buys?
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:30 PM   #3
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How is the rebuilt more?
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:29 PM   #4
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i assume because it's rebuilt from OEM parts and the new isn't new oem.
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:29 PM   #5
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the rebuilt is more expense plus it has a core charge of $50. The select/new has no core charge.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:31 AM   #6
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I'd guess the select uses cheaper parts but I don't know for certain. I used to work in the business and there s a LOT of price pressure on halfshafts. All kinds of cheaper parts get used to meet the price point. I'd call to find out the difference.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:20 AM   #7
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Hi Guys- I work at CARDONE.

CARDONE has established pricing on taking into account multiple factors and our customers then price as they see fit for their market and strategy. Our pricing out to the market has reman cheaper than new. However, the location you reviewed is priced it differently.

With that being said we believe in the quality of both of our units. The new is sold as a slight premium over reman in that it is all new material. You are correct that there is pricing pressure on new axles and some axles are built with inferior material.

Our new axles use the appropriate steel for the given application with the correct heat treatment to provide the correct torque rating.

Our reman axles use all the OE parts with 100% new grease, neoprene boots and boot clamps. Depending on the wear on the joint we will use a new race and or cage, again using the correct steel and highest grade bearings and appropriate CV grease. Some manufacturers use a general purpose grease.

You can feel confident in either purchase. If you want all new buy our CS product if you want the exact OE replacement parts buy the reman.

Hope this helps.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:54 AM   #8
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^Good info here.

I didn't know Cardone had new and reman units.

I confirmed the new units are indeed made in China.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:14 AM   #9
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Our reman axles use all the OE parts with 100% new grease, neoprene boots and boot clamps. Depending on the wear on the joint we will use a new race and or cage, again using the correct steel and highest grade bearings and appropriate CV grease. Some manufacturers use a general purpose grease.
This sounds great.
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Old 09-15-2011, 05:51 PM   #10
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I wouldn't buy either.
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:30 PM   #11
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^Good info here.

I didn't know Cardone had new and reman units.

I confirmed the new units are indeed made in China.
Do you at least like Chinese food? LOL
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:41 PM   #12
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I wouldn't buy either.
Do you even know what you are talking about? Cardone is one of the only suppliers who sell OEM remans.... not trying to be a dick but don't want mis-truths out there. I had to sort through so much bs when i was researching this.
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:57 PM   #13
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Good for you. If you think they are they same as a $500 OEM, good for you, they are not. If you think they come with all OEM parts, they do not, (read the above, "like OEM" If you are looking for a cheap solution, and not looking for OEM quality, then you will be fine. If you think they toss all of the CORE's that are not OEM, think again. You can be a dick if you want, no matter to me.


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Do you even know what you are talking about? Cardone is one of the only suppliers who sell OEM remans.... not trying to be a dick but don't want mis-truths out there. I had to sort through so much bs when i was researching this.

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Old 09-15-2011, 08:02 PM   #14
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I wouldn't buy either.
Just wondering, have you tried them?
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:08 PM   #15
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:13 PM   #16
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I have an A1CarDone reman on the pass side-no regrets.
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:12 AM   #17
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FYI - Our Product Manager for CV's told me we scrap the non-OE cores we receive.
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:10 PM   #18
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If you think they toss all of the CORE's that are not OEM, think again. You can be a dick if you want, no matter to me.
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FYI - Our Product Manager for CV's told me we scrap the non-OE cores we receive.
Hear that Markus?

I'd take a free set of Cardone reman's over axles from the dealer any day. Axles from the dealer are reman anyway. Cardone obviously has more experience remanning front axles than BMW.

See where it says "Rmfd" on realoem?

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...52&hg=31&fg=20

Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:21 PM   #19
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I take mine out of the trash and send them to you. If you lose all your hot air, is there anything left?
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:02 PM   #20
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I had to replace both front halfshafts when I bought my 330XI at 70k, which were factory originals. I was disappointed that the OEM failed so soon since I was expecting around 100-200k life like some other cars I've owned (esp Honda and GM). I now have remans with upgraded boots so fingers crossed for another 100k.
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