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The E46 XI was produced from 01-05 in sedan and touring body styles. Powered by either a 2.5L inline 6 in the 325xi or a 3.0L inline 6 330xi. Discuss all thing about BMW AWD E46 'Xi' here.

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Old 09-14-2011, 12:00 PM   #1
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Fuchs Oil....

Just hoping to find some input on FUCHS oil, anyone have experience with it, or anything?
Reason i'm asking....my current indy shop is switching over to using Fuchs 5w40 oil.
In the past, for previous car i ran Total 5w30 oil, seemed good, never had issues...that was in my x5.

So i've asked for an oil change, and he's told me he would be using Fuchs 5w40 for my 2005 325xi.

I'm just curious of the brand....
any input would be great!
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:12 PM   #2
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Never used it and can't comment on the quality. I can tell you that it's not on the wiki's list of approved oils, tho:



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Old 09-14-2011, 12:27 PM   #3
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Well, I just gonna edit my intial post.....its under Titan Supersyn 5w40, LL04?
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:30 PM   #4
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Looks like that one is on the list, so I'd go ahead and give it a try.
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:30 PM   #5
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maybe new oil on the market?

not that much info Fuchs OiL WEBSITE! its Japanese!

do you trust japanese? seriously.... liikee they had warning about the NUCLEAR POWER Incident! If earth quake Hits.. it will get damage.... remember.. sooo i say irresponsible .. remember toyota DEATH Peddle ?...


NOPE! MOBILE 1 or Castrol =]
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:33 PM   #6
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maybe new oil on the market?

not that much info Fuchs OiL WEBSITE! its Japanese!

do you trust japanese? seriously.... liikee they had warning about the NUCLEAR POWER Incident! If earth quake Hits.. it will get damage.... remember.. sooo i say irresponsible .. remember toyota DEATH Peddle ?...


NOPE! MOBILE 1 or Castrol =]
lol wut?

I trust the japanese to make a quality product. in fact, there's probably no other county in the world i'd trust more. the products might be slightly boring in some cases, but almost always high quality.
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:41 PM   #7
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oh, i thought it was a german based company....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchs_Petrolub

http://www.fuchslubricants.com/


Anyhow, chances i'm gonna be giving it a shot.....japanese or not...
TiAgXi, your right about Japanese quality thought...i've always found my japanese cars to have have been quality, maintence free wise well beyond my Bmw's and Audi....but, just boring.....

It still does amaze me how Toyota and Honda still have better quality control issues of that of Bmw and mercedes year after year....thats for intial quality for the sake of anyone's arguement.

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Old 09-14-2011, 12:47 PM   #8
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lol wut?

I trust the japanese to make a quality product. in fact, there's probably no other county in the world i'd trust more. the products might be slightly boring in some cases, but almost always high quality.


i like MADE IN AMERICA! hehe

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...l_Economy.aspx

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(972) 444-1000 ***8206; TX

MY OPINION and many others that used Castrol or Mobil 1.


you pay 4 your oil change, Its your choice of what Oil 2 Use.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:05 PM   #9
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I'm sure i'd use mobil 1, but the shop doesn't carry mobil 1....only Fuchs/Titan, Total(Elf) and other MB brands.....i was a little leary before when i was using Total....but never had any issues with it, and again it was a fairly unknown brand.....

Sure i'd support Made in Canada or USA....but rarely things are made in each own's country....just like how Canada ships oil down to the US, then buys it back for more? WTF? and then i gotta pay 1.50 a litre for prem gas here....(3.78 litres equals 1 gallon).......
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Motul x-cess 5w40 is the best oil for the M54, in my opinion.

He's probably switching because it's cheaper. Just do your own oil changes every 5000 miles. Wonder what crap brand of filters he's using now...
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:42 PM   #11
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why 5w40 and not 5w30? I just stick with the dealer oil at $6 a quart. beats $10 for mobil1, motul, redline, RP, etc. from the auto store.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:58 PM   #12
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Yeah not sure why the switch or adding...cause he still has total quartz....he said its hard for him sometimes to get the single bottle of total, he ususally uses fresh bottles rather then the stuff that comes in the barrels.so is it cheaper to use a bottle versus bulk barrels? who knows but...i've always preferred shops using the bottles, i can clearly see them opening a fresh bottle!!! As oil filters, still using Mann ones......i would stick to the dealer...however, time.......their hours never work with mine...they're always closed when i need them, and they're not open on saturdays.....what gives....
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Fuchs 5/40, last time I saw the bottle, was LL-98. I'm actually considering it myself. Most I'll go is maybe 12K miles on it, though it's probably fine afterwards.

I wish I knew the real differences between the LL ratings, though I'm 99.9% that LL-04 is not for our cars, only cars in other countries with stuff in their fuel that doesn't go well with LL-04. Maybe it's only for diesels or something? I haven't followed the discussion other than to know it's not right for us in the US.

The Total you should have been using, 0/30 is LL-01--haven't lost a drop in 10K miles on it.

And there IS a Total Quartz, 5/40 that's also LL-01
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:15 PM   #14
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Motul x-cess 5w40 is the best oil for the M54, in my opinion.

He's probably switching because it's cheaper. Just do your own oil changes every 5000 miles. Wonder what crap brand of filters he's using now...
Motul x-cess 5w4 will be in my next OIL CHANGE SO TO SPEAK! =D castrol to mobile 1 and now Motul x-cess 5w4 =p
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Fuchs 5/40, last time I saw the bottle, was LL-98. I'm actually considering it myself. Most I'll go is maybe 12K miles on it, though it's probably fine afterwards.

I wish I knew the real differences between the LL ratings, though I'm 99.9% that LL-04 is not for our cars, only cars in other countries with stuff in their fuel that doesn't go well with LL-04. Maybe it's only for diesels or something? I haven't followed the discussion other than to know it's not right for us in the US.

The Total you should have been using, 0/30 is LL-01--haven't lost a drop in 10K miles on it.

And there IS a Total Quartz, 5/40 that's also LL-01



Yes, there is a LL-98....he showed my a bottle that was LL-o4.
As for the Total Quartz, exactly....when i used it, not a drop of oil was being burned...that was my 4.4 x5 where owners seem to complain of alot of oil consumption...i may just keep asking for Total, he just mentioned to me this FUCHS....availability on it was better obviously for him....
i've heard that aswell, that LL-04 isn't for North America, mainly used in Europe....not sure i know why either, hence for me starting this thread and hoping people would shed some light on it and current or previous experiences.
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why 5w40 and not 5w30? I just stick with the dealer oil at $6 a quart. beats $10 for mobil1, motul, redline, RP, etc. from the auto store.
I get loud lifter tick after a few autox runs, at the track, or really hot days when the GC 0w-30 is not brand new. With the Motul, I have zero lifter tick and my small amount of oil consumption seems to have disappeared.

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Motul x-cess 5w4 will be in my next OIL CHANGE SO TO SPEAK! =D castrol to mobile 1 and now Motul x-cess 5w4 =p
I haven't tried the Motul in the winter yet, but if I lived in Atlanta I'd definitely run Motul all year round.

I bought 20 liters off Amazon for $138 shipped. That's about $6.57 per quart.

Everyone has their own opinions, but I guarantee a quart of Motul is more expensive to make than a quart of BMW.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:35 PM   #17
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I only wish i live in America....last time i went to the dealer and bought 9 quarts of dealer oil and a filter....it came out close to 130.....
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:54 PM   #18
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Where do you guys buy these brands of oil? I rarely see anything but M1.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:57 PM   #19
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Yeah Mobil 1 seems to be everywhere...even here at local walmart...10.96 a quart.....Mainly seeing different brands at local inday shops....i'm sure mobil 1 doesn't sell to a account that doesn't do over 1 million sales or something? who knows....
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To be a proper Euro Indi, maybe you need exclusive products to offer. Kind of boutique cool. Patrons come back to continue the magic. Repeat business for the shops, oil brand bragging rights for the customer. Come on, we all know if it's tricky to pronounce, it's gotta be good.
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