E46 BMW Social Directory E46 FAQ 3-Series Discussion Forums BMW Photo Gallery BMW 3-Series Technical Information E46 Fanatics - The Ultimate BMW Resource BMW Vendors General E46 Forum The Tire Rack's Tire Wheel Forum Forced Induction Forum The Off-Topic The E46 BMW Showroom For Sale, For Trade or Wanting to Buy

Welcome to the E46Fanatics forums. E46Fanatics is the premiere website for BMW 3 series owners around the world with interactive forums, a geographical enthusiast directory, photo galleries, and technical information for BMW enthusiasts.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   E46Fanatics > Everything Else > The Off-Topic > Gun Talk

Gun Talk
Are you a gun fanatic as well? If so, you'll want to talk to other owners about what you own in this forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 3 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 05-05-2015, 07:30 AM   #1
GlockMan
Registered User
 
GlockMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,093
My Ride: Suburban LT 4x4
Glock 43 Single Stack 9mm & HK P30SK Kompact

Any thoughts?

For those who don't know...

Glock finally released the Glock 43 a single stack 9mm and HK now has an affordable hammer fired compact 9mm with an optional safety.

I am very excited about both of these!





__________________
.
!!! ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!
National Champions: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015!



Ranting about Panny plasmas, Canon cameras, Glocks, BlueNile, and HDMI cables on a BMW board since 2005.

2016 Honda Accord Sedan V6 Touring (wife)
2007 Chevy Suburban LT 4x4 with Nav/Bose/DVD
1968 Ford Mustang with Polk/ADS (my first car)

2007 Lexus GS350
2000 BMW DINAN M5
2001 BMW 330ci
GlockMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 08:40 AM   #2
Serbonze
Master of his domain.
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,280
My Ride: My wife
The 43 doens't really excite me at all. I have no problem concealing the 26, 19, or even the 17. I love that that I can use either the 19 or 17 magazines in the 26 if I ever wanted to. So for me, I don't see a benefit of switching to the 43.
__________________
Serbonze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 09:42 AM   #3
GlockMan
Registered User
 
GlockMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,093
My Ride: Suburban LT 4x4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serbonze View Post
The 43 doens't really excite me at all. I have no problem concealing the 26, 19, or even the 17. I love that that I can use either the 19 or 17 magazines in the 26 if I ever wanted to. So for me, I don't see a benefit of switching to the 43.
I know what you mean. I mostly carry in my front pocket, so for me, it is a big difference.

When I carry on waist, I carry HK P2000 usually.

S&W 642 in pocket.

I think they will sell a ton of them though especially in hot states like Florida.
__________________
.
!!! ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!
National Champions: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015!



Ranting about Panny plasmas, Canon cameras, Glocks, BlueNile, and HDMI cables on a BMW board since 2005.

2016 Honda Accord Sedan V6 Touring (wife)
2007 Chevy Suburban LT 4x4 with Nav/Bose/DVD
1968 Ford Mustang with Polk/ADS (my first car)

2007 Lexus GS350
2000 BMW DINAN M5
2001 BMW 330ci
GlockMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 01:06 PM   #4
david05111
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ponte Vedra, FL
Posts: 4,097
My Ride: drei hundert dreißig
I shot one of my buddies' 43 last week. It's a glock lol...nice gun. Weird to run out of ammo so quickly, but if you can shoot any other glock well, you can do the same with this one.

I haven't seen the little HK in person yet, but I'll keep my eyes open for it.
__________________


"You'll Never Walk Alone"

"Psycho Murican" -- beeemerdude of Canada
david05111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 09:44 PM   #5
MP0WER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 499
My Ride: is fun to drive
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serbonze View Post
The 43 doens't really excite me at all. I have no problem concealing the 26, 19, or even the 17. I love that that I can use either the 19 or 17 magazines in the 26 if I ever wanted to. So for me, I don't see a benefit of switching to the 43.
I was telling David the other week that i've actually transitioned from carrying my S&W Shield 9mm to my G19. The difference between carrying comfort is minimal but during my first action shooting class i realized what a huge advantage it is to have a 15rd mag over and 8rd mag. Of course statistics tell another story with regards to the average number of shots during a self-defense shoot, but with as unlikely as it is for me to be involved in a self-defense shoot, the odds of needing more than 9rounds are only slightly lower.

Add in the fact that i'm very proficient and accurate with the G19,23 frame and it was a no brainer to switch. In the same timed draw and shoot drills at 3yds my groups were about 3x smaller than my grouping with the Shield. Now, my 3 shot groups with the Shield were only about 14" (draw and fire 3 rounds in about 1.5 seconds) But with the Glock my groups were about 5" and i could easily walk 3 shots up from abdomen, chest, head with the Glock. Where as i was less accurate with the shield. I had to move the target out to 7 yds before my groups grew to that of the Shield for the same draw and shoot 3 rds in under 2 seconds.

I may sell the Shield and get an ultracompact pistol for the times i need something smaller. But for the foreseeable future, i'm packing my G19 and 16 rounds.
__________________


"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." — Frédéric Bastiat
MP0WER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 07:53 PM   #6
GlockMan
Registered User
 
GlockMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,093
My Ride: Suburban LT 4x4
Anyone own p2000sk or p30sk?

I am trying to decide between them.

I want DA/SA.
__________________
.
!!! ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!
National Champions: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015!



Ranting about Panny plasmas, Canon cameras, Glocks, BlueNile, and HDMI cables on a BMW board since 2005.

2016 Honda Accord Sedan V6 Touring (wife)
2007 Chevy Suburban LT 4x4 with Nav/Bose/DVD
1968 Ford Mustang with Polk/ADS (my first car)

2007 Lexus GS350
2000 BMW DINAN M5
2001 BMW 330ci
GlockMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2015, 11:55 AM   #7
MP0WER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 499
My Ride: is fun to drive
Have you shot either?

I have a P30 and if the trigger is the same on the SK, it's pretty bad out of the box. But if you have the P2000, maybe you are already familiar with HK pistol triggers. (if they all feel the same that is)
__________________


"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." — Frédéric Bastiat

Last edited by MP0WER; 06-22-2015 at 11:58 AM.
MP0WER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2015, 12:50 PM   #8
GlockMan
Registered User
 
GlockMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,093
My Ride: Suburban LT 4x4
Quote:
Originally Posted by MP0WER View Post
Have you shot either?

I have a P30 and if the trigger is the same on the SK, it's pretty bad out of the box. But if you have the P2000, maybe you are already familiar with HK pistol triggers. (if they all feel the same that is)
No, I have not shot any P30's but I have a P2000 and HK45 and like both fine.

I am fine with the triggers (not good enough shot to care I guess.)

I was going to buy a P2000SK but the only ones I can find are $200 more than the newer P30SK. About the same size and P30SK has better grip options.

Honestly, I have never shot any gun before buying. I just buy good guns that hold their value well and have never really been burned.

JMO.
__________________
.
!!! ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!
National Champions: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015!



Ranting about Panny plasmas, Canon cameras, Glocks, BlueNile, and HDMI cables on a BMW board since 2005.

2016 Honda Accord Sedan V6 Touring (wife)
2007 Chevy Suburban LT 4x4 with Nav/Bose/DVD
1968 Ford Mustang with Polk/ADS (my first car)

2007 Lexus GS350
2000 BMW DINAN M5
2001 BMW 330ci
GlockMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2015, 01:32 PM   #9
MP0WER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 499
My Ride: is fun to drive
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlockMan View Post
No, I have not shot any P30's but I have a P2000 and HK45 and like both fine.

I am fine with the triggers (not good enough shot to care I guess.)

I was going to buy a P2000SK but the only ones I can find are $200 more than the newer P30SK. About the same size and P30SK has better grip options.

Honestly, I have never shot any gun before buying. I just buy good guns that hold their value well and have never really been burned.

JMO.
Won't argue with that logic.

My only comment about the P30 trigger was aimed at whether or not you'd be carrying it. I would personally want a different trigger for a carry gun. But a garbage trigger can be totally fine if you spend enough time pulling it.

I carry a glock 19 and occasionally a S&W shield 9mm. Both have similar triggers, which are crap for some people. But i'm familiar with them and can be quite proficient with them.

Because of the trigger on my P30, i tend to shoot it less than anything else. So i suppose i could chalk up my groups being larger with that pistol because i don't shoot it enough. Not a huge fan of the mag release on the P30 either. But again, it's most likely due to a lack of time spent manipulating it.
__________________


"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." — Frédéric Bastiat
MP0WER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2015, 11:07 PM   #10
Rush4theYehO
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,547
My Ride: XI fts(now)
Another P30 owner here

My $0.02 - P30's suck. I'm not a fan. Had one for about 400 rounds. The texturing on the gun catches on fabric insanely easy, the trigger is mushy beyond belief and there's this damn groove in the trigger guard that slices up the bottom of your trigger finger as you pull the trigger. The mag release isn't my preference, but that's just the design so I'm not knocking that. Couldn't be happier seeing the gun go. YMMV
Rush4theYehO is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 05:31 AM   #11
GlockMan
Registered User
 
GlockMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,093
My Ride: Suburban LT 4x4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rush4theYehO View Post
Another P30 owner here

My $0.02 - P30's suck. I'm not a fan. Had one for about 400 rounds. The texturing on the gun catches on fabric insanely easy, the trigger is mushy beyond belief and there's this damn groove in the trigger guard that slices up the bottom of your trigger finger as you pull the trigger. The mag release isn't my preference, but that's just the design so I'm not knocking that. Couldn't be happier seeing the gun go. YMMV
Wow!

Now i have to think...
__________________
.
!!! ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!
National Champions: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015!



Ranting about Panny plasmas, Canon cameras, Glocks, BlueNile, and HDMI cables on a BMW board since 2005.

2016 Honda Accord Sedan V6 Touring (wife)
2007 Chevy Suburban LT 4x4 with Nav/Bose/DVD
1968 Ford Mustang with Polk/ADS (my first car)

2007 Lexus GS350
2000 BMW DINAN M5
2001 BMW 330ci
GlockMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 05:33 AM   #12
GlockMan
Registered User
 
GlockMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,093
My Ride: Suburban LT 4x4
Ok...

My original plan was to do a p2000sk and bob the hammer.

Any thoughts on this plan?
__________________
.
!!! ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!
National Champions: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015!



Ranting about Panny plasmas, Canon cameras, Glocks, BlueNile, and HDMI cables on a BMW board since 2005.

2016 Honda Accord Sedan V6 Touring (wife)
2007 Chevy Suburban LT 4x4 with Nav/Bose/DVD
1968 Ford Mustang with Polk/ADS (my first car)

2007 Lexus GS350
2000 BMW DINAN M5
2001 BMW 330ci
GlockMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 11:20 AM   #13
david05111
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ponte Vedra, FL
Posts: 4,097
My Ride: drei hundert dreißig
But...but...you're GlockMan...
__________________


"You'll Never Walk Alone"

"Psycho Murican" -- beeemerdude of Canada

Last edited by david05111; 06-23-2015 at 11:20 AM.
david05111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 11:46 AM   #14
NOVAbimmer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 13,119
My Ride: E60M
Quote:
Originally Posted by david05111 View Post
but...but...you're glockman...

+1
__________________
NOVAbimmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 12:19 PM   #15
MP0WER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 499
My Ride: is fun to drive
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rush4theYehO View Post
Another P30 owner here

My $0.02 - P30's suck. I'm not a fan. Had one for about 400 rounds. The texturing on the gun catches on fabric insanely easy, the trigger is mushy beyond belief and there's this damn groove in the trigger guard that slices up the bottom of your trigger finger as you pull the trigger. The mag release isn't my preference, but that's just the design so I'm not knocking that. Couldn't be happier seeing the gun go. YMMV
yeah, the grip texture can be grabby. Makes a cotton t-shirt look like it was brushed cotton after it's rubbed on it for a while.

I don't think it's a bad gun though. With a trigger job, i'd probably like it a lot more.

But then, I suppose that knowing what i now now about the gun and H&K in general, if i had the opportunity to rewind time, i'd probably not buy it again. But it's not so bad to me that i'm willing to dump it just yet.
__________________


"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." — Frédéric Bastiat

Last edited by MP0WER; 06-23-2015 at 12:20 PM.
MP0WER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 12:24 PM   #16
Reedo302
Registered User
 
Reedo302's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 8,120
My Ride: F30 328i M Sport
I am hoping to pick up a 43 at some point in the near future. My department just authorized it for backup/off-duty carry in our shift away from S&W. No more need to have a PTC for a non-authoried off-duty gun.

That and I'm a Glock fanboy.
__________________
DINAN3 F30 328i M Sport
DinanTronics Stage 1
Dinan Free Flow Black Tip Stainless Exhaust
Dinan Lowering Springs and Bumpstops
Dinan 20" Black Performance Wheels



Gunfighter Training Development and Evaluation
AR15/AR10 Armorer/Advanced Armorer
Glock Armorer


Gunfighter Training YouTube Channel
Reedo302 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 05:30 PM   #17
Rush4theYehO
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,547
My Ride: XI fts(now)
I just sent in my glock for a full agency arms custom package. You should wait till I get it back to decide. Those things are sexy.
Rush4theYehO is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 05:34 PM   #18
Rush4theYehO
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,547
My Ride: XI fts(now)
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlockMan View Post
Wow!

Now i have to think...
I don't want to sway you in a negative manner. I should have been a little more objective. The pros of hte gun are things you probably already know - very accurate, reliable and that spiderman grip really does feel awesome in the hands.

Forgot to mention - try rubbing it against the skin. Like sandpaper. Couldn't carry it without an undershirt. Mags are expensive. The 3-dot sights aren't quite night sights, just some fluorescent stickers. The P2000sk would be a much better choice, IMO. You'll just have to be comfortable with the DA/SA system.

OK, i'm done. No more bagging on a gun you'd be interested in. Sorry didn't mean to sh*t on your thread!!

Last edited by Rush4theYehO; 06-23-2015 at 05:36 PM.
Rush4theYehO is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 07:45 PM   #19
MP0WER
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 499
My Ride: is fun to drive
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rush4theYehO View Post
I don't want to sway you in a negative manner. I should have been a little more objective. The pros of hte gun are things you probably already know - very accurate, reliable and that spiderman grip really does feel awesome in the hands.

Forgot to mention - try rubbing it against the skin. Like sandpaper. Couldn't carry it without an undershirt. Mags are expensive. The 3-dot sights aren't quite night sights, just some fluorescent stickers. The P2000sk would be a much better choice, IMO. You'll just have to be comfortable with the DA/SA system.

OK, i'm done. No more bagging on a gun you'd be interested in. Sorry didn't mean to sh*t on your thread!!
That's weird, my night sights actually are bright enough to cast a shadow in a dark room. But yeah, everything else is spot on.
__________________


"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." — Frédéric Bastiat
MP0WER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 08:45 PM   #20
GlockMan
Registered User
 
GlockMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,093
My Ride: Suburban LT 4x4
They come in both tritium and chargable night sites. Tritium is $100 more and comes with extra mag.

Now i am thinking about shield or a Glock 43 with NY trigger.

I do like the p2000sk but hard to find at reasonable price.

I wear shorts and polo shirt most days.

BTW ... I am fat and its 100 frikin degrees here in the summer.

Leaning towards shield in pocket / appendix carry.

Grrrrr.
__________________
.
!!! ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!
National Champions: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015!



Ranting about Panny plasmas, Canon cameras, Glocks, BlueNile, and HDMI cables on a BMW board since 2005.

2016 Honda Accord Sedan V6 Touring (wife)
2007 Chevy Suburban LT 4x4 with Nav/Bose/DVD
1968 Ford Mustang with Polk/ADS (my first car)

2007 Lexus GS350
2000 BMW DINAN M5
2001 BMW 330ci

Last edited by GlockMan; 06-23-2015 at 08:48 PM.
GlockMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Censor is OFF





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 1999 - 2016 performanceIX Inc - privacy policy - terms of use