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Old 10-12-2011, 10:58 PM   #1
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FCABs - Aftermarket or Genuine BMW?

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I am going to do my front control arm bushings soon, and I always like to use Genuine BMW parts; however, I am not interested in replacing these again in 50,000 miles.

The OE bushings are fluid-filled, reducing noise, vibration and harshness. This is an important characteristic to me, as I like having a nice ride. Fluid-filled bushings do an excellent job of this, but at the expense of longevity.

The two bushings I am considering:

Genuine BMW:
Pros: 2-year warranty
Same noise, vibration and harshness as stock
Guaranteed fit

Cons: Don't last as long
Expensive

Meyle HD:
Pros: Last longer
(I think) 2-year warranty
A little bit cheaper

Cons:
???

I am one of those particular people that notice things that lots of people don't.

Will I be noticeably sacrificing ride quality/harshness compared to OE?

They claim "no," but lots of aftermarket manufacturers claim a lot of things, so I am a bit skeptical.
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:16 AM   #2
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IMHO if everything else is stock the stiffer F cabs won't give you a noticeably harsh ride.

I used poly urethane for a while before I lowered my ride on Bilsteins and I couldn't notice a difference. Once lowered the ride is stiff but not too bad.

One caveat - I'm still on stock 16" rims. Not sure if larger rims would transfer more road feel.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:57 AM   #3
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I doubt you'd have any vibration issues with "solid" rubber Meyles. Polyurethane I can see, but not rubber. Keep in mind the E30 and E36 have the same basic front suspension design and none of those had the fluid filled control arm bushings - just rubber.
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Old 10-13-2011, 08:23 AM   #4
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I just installed a set of HD 2 days ago. There is definitely more feel from the road but I actually like it. Any more would be a little too much for a street driven car. I think HDs are a perfect balance. I don't have that weird feedback in the wheel when I get on the brakes any more.

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Yes, I did

I am going to do my front control arm bushings soon, and I always like to use Genuine BMW parts; however, I am not interested in replacing these again in 50,000 miles.

The OE bushings are fluid-filled, reducing noise, vibration and harshness. This is an important characteristic to me, as I like having a nice ride. Fluid-filled bushings do an excellent job of this, but at the expense of longevity.

The two bushings I am considering:

Genuine BMW:
Pros: 2-year warranty
Same noise, vibration and harshness as stock
Guaranteed fit

Cons: Don't last as long
Expensive

Meyle HD:
Pros: Last longer
(I think) 2-year warranty
A little bit cheaper

Cons:
???

I am one of those particular people that notice things that lots of people don't.

Will I be noticeably sacrificing ride quality/harshness compared to OE?

They claim "no," but lots of aftermarket manufacturers claim a lot of things, so I am a bit skeptical.
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...0Bushing%20Kit
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Go oem, 50 k miles is really good for fcab.

No way in hell myele would last that long.

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Old 10-13-2011, 09:54 AM   #8
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I am going to do my front control arm bushings soon, and I always like to use Genuine BMW parts; however, I am not interested in replacing these again in 50,000 miles.

The OE bushings are fluid-filled, reducing noise, vibration and harshness. This is an important characteristic to me, as I like having a nice ride. Fluid-filled bushings do an excellent job of this, but at the expense of longevity.
50K?

OE FCABs need to be replaced every ~20K.

Are you sure youre not thinking of control arms? Those might not last more than 50K - 60K.

EVen if they did last 50K, thats a LOT of miles for a part that only costs $120 for the pair.

I would still buy OE FCABs.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:42 AM   #9
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That's just what I read online, that FCABs go bad 50-60k, and non-ZHP control arms around 100k.
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That's just what I read online, that FCABs go bad 50-60k, and non-ZHP control arms around 100k.
Ive had mine replaced 3 times in 60K. The first two times were performed by the dealer under warranty.

Of course it depends on the roads you drive on and how much excess play youre willing to tolerate, but 50K is really not possible. It would seem a lot of posters keep them well beyond their useful life or are refering to poly bushings, which last longer than rubber but provide a really harsh ride. If you search, you'll see many who bought AM FCABs almost always return to OE bushings and regret having to spend the extra time and money replacing inferior parts.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:08 AM   #11
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Go oem, 50 k miles is really good for fcab.

No way in hell myele would last that long.

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I can't speak to the rest of their product line but I typically get 1.5X - 2X the life out of Meyle HD CABs and rear diff bushings relative to stock.

My stock CABs lasted roughly 35k miles on a completely stock suspension. I now get 55-60k miles with Meyle HD CABs even though I have a much more aggressive suspension setup (255 vs 225 front tires, stiffer front sway, 550 lb/in front spring rates vs ~140 lb/in stock).

Aside from the fact that the slightly stiffer bushing may reveal other previously undetected suspension problems which people then tend to blame on the bushing, I have no problems recommending the Meyle HD CAB. It may also be possible that the Meyle bushing is more sensitive to having the proper insertion depth on both sides of the car although I've never experienced any unusual vibrations with my bushings. A tiny bit of extra road feel, sure, but no vibration through the steering wheel.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:25 AM   #12
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I have Meyle HD FCAB's and control arms. I have easily put 15,000 miles since they were installed and the ride has been smooth and confident. ZERO problems. I plan to replace them once they are more worn with Meyle HD FCABS's again.


FCAB's usually last ~20,000-25,000 miles.

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Old 10-13-2011, 11:28 AM   #13
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I have Meyle HD FCAB's and control arms. I have easily put 15,000 miles since they were installed and the ride has been smooth and confident. ZERO problems. I plan to replace them once they are more worn with Meyle HD FCABS's again.


FCAB's usually last ~20,000-25,000 miles.
Exact same story here. Same mileage even. All good.
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I run Powerflex FCABs on my car. I've had them on for about 10k miles, no signs of wear or tear!


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Well, when I bought my current car it had oe bushes in. I decided to change them just because I wanted to run Urenthene. When I took out the oe bushes they were stamped '08 so my best guess would be that they had about 40k miles and they were perfectly fine(They even still held oil in them). My friend bought Myele for his car a few years back and they disintegrated within 25k miles (yes, we all drive quite alot over here).


Eventhou I have Powerflex bushes in my car I still recommend OEM for OP , because I think they will suit him better.
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