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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 10-16-2011, 03:47 PM   #1
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Just bought a 2002 M3 PLEASE help me with a few questions??

Ok guys I am confused about a few things

1. I want the upgraded later LED tail lights, what would have to be done to install OEM ones? also someone said they are pressure sensitive meaning the harder you press the pedal the brighter?? Is there aftermarket ones that just bolt on and looks the same and work?


2. I want a CSL trunk, some look like the fin doesnt come up enough or shape is off, whats a good one I can get, does NOT have to be CF just regular is ok

3. I plan to run 19x9.5 et35 and et20, what sizes tires can I run without rubbing inside, my fenders have been rolled pretty good.

4.If I buy a CSL front bumper from one of the places that have them, will it bolt up to my other M3 plastics and pieces etc? any other parts ill be missing?

5.What are good bang for your buck tires to go with?

Thank you so much for people that help me with this.

Ive searched on most of these things but some threads are older so maybe newer products are out? better info. thanks again
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:03 PM   #2
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1.OEM from Tischer $515 shipped I just ordered a set, the aftermarket ones dont have any pressure sensing (im not certain the oem have that feature activated in NA market). Eagle eye leds are next best, depo brand has some issues. Non-oem ones tend to fail more often.

2. I think you'll find your only option is a CF trunk, Im not aware of any aftermarket non cf trunks, just get it painted to match body color.

Ill refer you to the search feature/other members for the other Q's
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:22 PM   #3
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thank you anyone else?
what brand trunk?
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:18 PM   #4
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1. Adaptive LED tails works in conjunction with LCM and updated brake switch sensor. Depending what year production your car was, you might even need an updated LCM plus brake switch. There's only two level of brightness, which has to do with the outer leds being dimmed or as bright as the rest of the brake LEDs on hard braking. My tails are Eagle Eyes, and I have since mod it to do sequential turning when I was having problems with them.

2. I'd stay away from ones that require the trunk handle. Scorza and Vorstiner is about as close as you're going to get with fitment. I have VIS which fits great, but I've seen others with VIS that doesn't sit too well. Its a hit and miss with VIS.

3. Can't comment on this, since my fenders are not rolled or cut. But I'm dropped on KW2s with 9.5" wheels. The widest I've gone is 265 30 19. Haven't tried anything wider. You will have more clearances to work with than me.

4. What kind of reinforcement does your front bumper have; aluminum or kevlar? That's going to determine how you're going to go about fitting a CSL front bumper.

5. Whatever you can afford, but don't cheap out on 'em either. The rears don't usually that long.

6. Prior to the aforementioned mods, please take car of maintenance first. Rtabs, fcab, rear subframes, check vanos hubs and bolts. Replace fluids, belts and filters. These are the things you should focus on first. Enjoy the car stock for now, so that later on after you mod it, you can reflect on how it was stock.
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Old 10-16-2011, 06:06 PM   #5
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Thank you, Yes I have taken care of the maintenance already.


1. Ok so it really wouldnt be worth it for the 2 steps then. Are the eagle eyes identical in look to the oem ones?

4. My front bumper is just attached how it came from the factory and its all there.
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Old 10-16-2011, 06:34 PM   #6
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Ok guys I am confused about a few things
1. I want the upgraded later LED tail lights, what would have to be done to install OEM ones? also someone said they are pressure sensitive meaning the harder you press the pedal the brighter?? Is there aftermarket ones that just bolt on and looks the same and work?
2. I want a CSL trunk, some look like the fin doesnt come up enough or shape is off, whats a good one I can get, does NOT have to be CF just regular is ok
3. I plan to run 19x9.5 et35 and et20, what sizes tires can I run without rubbing inside, my fenders have been rolled pretty good.
4.If I buy a CSL front bumper from one of the places that have them, will it bolt up to my other M3 plastics and pieces etc? any other parts ill be missing?
5.What are good bang for your buck tires to go with?
1)Yes oem LED tails do have the Adaptive Brake Force Display. Outmost led rings light under hardest braking like ABS active. This feature has not yet been able to work on cars not made this way. Although I have a jumper wire on mine and they light. You can buy oem LEDs and have the LCM coded for LEDs. I put OEM on my last two E46s. They look better than aftermaket. But aftermarket still look pretty good for most and don't need a reflash as they uses resistors.
2) Vorsteiner is probably the best other than OEM. This is what I have. It's an exactly duplicate of oem and even oem owners can't tell.
3) Darn, can't recall my oem CSL offset, but I run 285/30/19 rear
4) As mentioned, the kevlar inner bar is the key. I think later models need another bar but ours allow the bumper skin to bolt on. Double check though.
5) No suggestion. I will say my Michelin Pilot Sports are grippy, but don't last and are expensive.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:26 PM   #7
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Thank you, Yes I have taken care of the maintenance already.


1. Ok so it really wouldnt be worth it for the 2 steps then. Are the eagle eyes identical in look to the oem ones?

4. My front bumper is just attached how it came from the factory and its all there.
1. Go OEM, eagle eyes outer edges are darker compared to oems. The diffuser that covers the brake light portion are different too. The turn signals are snap LEDs which are much brighter than the superflux/lumiled kind that eagle eyes has. Just get your LCM coded and you'll be set. With the eagle eyes there's always problems with burnt leds, faulty resistors and inferior voltage regulators. Plus most vendors of eagle eyes and depos only warrant the LEDs for 1 yr, and then you're on your own. Unless you're electronically inclined like I am, I strongly urge you to stay away from eagle eyes.

4. Take a look behind the bumper from the engine bay and you can see if you have the aluminum carrier or kevlar one. M3s from your year came with two different bumper supports.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:16 AM   #8
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it looks like I have the kevlar tray that hooks up to the bumper. then behind that is an aluminum pan that has the hole for the oil change etc. so how would I mount the csl bumper and what pieces will sI be missing? thank you guy
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:15 AM   #9
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Sound like you are off to a good start..!..Congrats...Good luck..
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:36 PM   #10
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Tires...I think the Continental ExtremeContact DWS are a great deal. I would have gotten them for my car when I needed to change them, but they were sold out and no one knew when they would get more in stock.

Heck, I just looked at Tirerack and the rears 235/40/19 are still backordered.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:49 PM   #11
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Tires...I think the Continental ExtremeContact DWS are a great deal. I would have gotten them for my car when I needed to change them, but they were sold out and no one knew when they would get more in stock.

Heck, I just looked at Tirerack and the rears 235/40/19 are still backordered.
Those sound like front sizes...
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:19 PM   #12
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Those sound like front sizes...
Doh! You are right...255/35/19 are the rears...and backordered.
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Old 10-17-2011, 05:17 PM   #13
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Ok guys I am confused about a few things

1. I want the upgraded later LED tail lights, what would have to be done to install OEM ones? also someone said they are pressure sensitive meaning the harder you press the pedal the brighter?? Is there aftermarket ones that just bolt on and looks the same and work?
Aftermarket versions are available that are less expensive and that function very well too. Eagle Eye taillights have been known on this forum to perform well.

2. I want a CSL trunk, some look like the fin doesnt come up enough or shape is off, whats a good one I can get, does NOT have to be CF just regular is ok
CSL trunks are all slightly different, but the ones we have here have a great fitment and look great. In terms of shape or the difference in the "duck tail" as it's called, you wont be able to tell the difference unless you lined them up next to each other, trust me.


3. I plan to run 19x9.5 et35 and et20, what sizes tires can I run without rubbing inside, my fenders have been rolled pretty good.
245/35/19 and 275/30-19 will be fine without rubbing on those offsets


4.If I buy a CSL front bumper from one of the places that have them, will it bolt up to my other M3 plastics and pieces etc? any other parts ill be missing?
Most of it, should bolt up just fine if I remember correctly. Someone will have to confirm this for me as well, but it should work fine with maybe some slight modification.


5.What are good bang for your buck tires to go with?
Hankook Ventus V12 Evo tires right now have a $80 rebate which makes them the least expensive tires in the sizes I listed above. For that, these are great tires that are easily up there with Yokohama S. Drives and the tires that are associated with them. I have them on my car and they feel great for daily driving.

Thank you so much for people that help me with this.

Ive searched on most of these things but some threads are older so maybe newer products are out? better info. thanks again
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Why would you not run wider wheels in the rear, at least 19x10s? and 275s should fit without fender work with those offsets.. congrats on the new ride!
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:27 PM   #15
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im running oem csl rear rims on my m3 with 285/30/19 and a .75" drop and i have no problems with rubbing and as far as a good bang for your buck i would go for the hankook v12's like stated already its what im currently running and i found that they are the best for the price good luck with new car.
and actually there was a company here that sold the csl trunk in fibreglass i have one of those left fitment was good and looks good
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