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Old 11-30-2011, 04:45 PM   #21
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please post more pics!!



great thread, op!
Will do soon. I believe I'll have it all finished today with pics up by tonight
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:43 PM   #22
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Thank you to Giancarlo at B-line motorspots!. Amazing work and amazing how you fit it all in the small engine bay. Engine bay has to be cleaned I KNOW. But I probably wont clean it. Why? because daily driver.
SO here it is guys. I'll get videos this weekend after I fix my leaks etc.





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Old 12-13-2011, 03:56 AM   #23
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that looks so clean!! and that work looks amazing!! just have a couple questions tho...

-how much did that cost?
-what if you need a rebuild, i don't think vortech would touch that unit now?
-won't the tubing get too hot where it runs up the vanos side of the engine?
-what power gains have you noticed?
-and if all is well, does your shop have a cast molding of the outlet side they could sell?

i currently run a cooling mist meth, and AA iso alc kit to cool my intake... works pretty good, but i'd love to add this system if it's actually that beneficial.

thanks!!!
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:55 AM   #24
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Wow Congrats!!

Will the tuning adapt to more PS I ?

Excellent progress thank you so much for sharing
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Old 12-13-2011, 11:18 AM   #25
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stupid question but i was wondering whether the VF stage1 comes with any intercooler/aftercooler?
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the non-M kit vf made never had any intercooler or aftercooler built for it, thats whay malibu just made his own.


like some of the early kits like prima and even early ASA kits had their own "starter" kits which was strapping on a blower at 6psi with no additional cooling as it was told to consumers that at 6 psi it would be fine.
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the non-M kit vf made never had any intercooler or aftercooler built for it, thats whay malibu just made his own.


like some of the early kits like prima and even early ASA kits had their own "starter" kits which was strapping on a blower at 6psi with no additional cooling as it was told to consumers that at 6 psi it would be fine.
cool thanx for the info. do you think it is safe to run at 6PSI without a cooler? I know that the ESS TS1 doesn't have a cooler either.
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not to derail the thread, it has to do with temperature. Im sure it even goes beyond that and IAT and a bunch of figures.

you have people who believe you need some sort of cooling at any psi

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those who say it is safe enough to boost at certain levels.

these stage one kits is right in the middle.

Between 6, 8, 9.5 psi on the m54 on a ASA centrifugal supercharger I mostly saw alot of oil temperature change.

oil coolers and intercoolers are a great way to keep the intake charge/engine oil temps cool, or atleast steadly under control than getting hotter"heatsoaked"


For more boost than recommend by by kit maker, malibu is try to obtaining more power with his new added intercooler.
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Wow Congrats!!

Will the tuning adapt to more PS I ?

Excellent progress thank you so much for sharing
wouldn't the added piping and intercooler drop the psi not give it more?
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wouldn't the added piping and intercooler drop the psi not give it more?
also wouldnt it heat back up going along then over motor?
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First off I would like to say thank you guys for the compliments and what not. Sorry I haven't been able to reply until now. I've been quite busy. As my stock diff just exploded and I'm now putting in a 3.64 diff instead of the stock 3.46. Moving on....

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that looks so clean!! and that work looks amazing!! just have a couple questions tho...

-how much did that cost?
-what if you need a rebuild, i don't think vortech would touch that unit now?
-won't the tubing get too hot where it runs up the vanos side of the engine?
-what power gains have you noticed?
-and if all is well, does your shop have a cast molding of the outlet side they could sell?

i currently run a cooling mist meth, and AA iso alc kit to cool my intake... works pretty good, but i'd love to add this system if it's actually that beneficial.

thanks!!!
The cost of everything was about $1,400 in the end. I did a lot of the measuring myself. had the pipes welded for me and painted for me. Luckily I know one of the co owners of Paxton/vortech so getting the supercharger rebuilt is not a worry. Although I still think they would rebuilt it no problem as long as you have the money. The only thing that was changed was the the direction of the outlet pipe. Nothing internally was touched. I switched a 2.78 pulley. My old dyno was 347whp and now it's up to 363whp. It has made a big difference in intake temps. I would have to be home to look at what we tested and wrote down. But all in all I'm very happy with how it turned out. And I do recommend it if you have the time and money.

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Wow Congrats!!

Will the tuning adapt to more PS I ?

Excellent progress thank you so much for sharing
Thanks!. So far its seemed to adjust just fine. Haven't had an issue other then my diff exploding cuz of it being beatin to hell and 178k miles lol.

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wouldn't the added piping and intercooler drop the psi not give it more?
Yes this is correct. But that is why I put on a a different pulley to put it back to where it should be. But honestly when we tested it. it only dropped about 0.5 psi. Not even a noticable difference.

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also wouldnt it heat back up going along then over motor?
There wasn't really any other way to make this kit fit properly with the 2.5" pipes. Even going under the engine would of caused many problems since the car is lowered and as we all know. There is absolutely no room in our engine bays lol. The hood vents have really helped the cooling as well. So if you have a boosted car I highly recommend a GTR type hood to help.


Here is a video I made to show people where the bypass valve was reolcated. And of course to hear the beautiful sounds.


Also here is a before picture you guys can look at to see how the super charger was cut and re-welded to change the direction of the charge pipe.
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nice work!!!! love what youve done!! respect for trying something slightly out of the box here... i can definatly see what your trying to achieve, im guessing even with the pipe that runs over the engine AITs should be significantly lower imo...
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nice work!!!! love what youve done!! respect for trying something slightly out of the box here... i can definatly see what your trying to achieve, im guessing even with the pipe that runs over the engine AITs should be significantly lower imo...
Thank you!. Oh yeah! it was a huge difference believe it or not with the intake temps. When I get home I will definitely look at the paper and post the accurate numbers. I don't want to just guess them and post bad information for us enthusiasts lol.
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so op you have a 330 correct? and your running a vf stage what kit? sounds like a stage 1 plus intercooler but that setup really puts out 345 whp? hard to imagine stage 1 producing that much
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so op you have a 330 correct? and your running a vf stage what kit? sounds like a stage 1 plus intercooler but that setup really puts out 345 whp? hard to imagine stage 1 producing that much
I'd like to know too. Mine only put down 270 at the wheels on the 328i kit.

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if all you guys read his thread, you would see that he dropped his pulley size to compensate for the lost pressure. that's why the op has such high whp. if he got a dyno tune i bet he'd gain at least 30 more!

op! did you get your car back yet? i would love to get my hands on those specs for the intercooler!

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if all you guys read his thread, you would see that he dropped his pulley size to compensate for the lost pressure. that's why the op has such high whp. if he got a dyno tune i bet he'd gain at least 30 more!

op! did you get your car back yet? i would love to get my hands on those specs for the intercooler!

thanks, again!!
Before dropping pulley size he said he only had .5 psi drop with the tubing I thought. ?? . there is something else involved with 5.5-6 psi on the 328.

What psi after the pulley? Even 7-8 on a smaller pulley makes it hard to see that, although I must be missing something obvious then.
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well, i have a 330, and when i had a 3.6 pulley i was only pushing 5.5 pounds of boost. when i went to the lowest size, either a 2.8 or a 2.6 i started seeing a 12lb, when i upgraded my impeller i started seeing 14 at times.
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well, i have a 330, and when i had a 3.6 pulley i was only pushing 5.5 pounds of boost. when i went to the lowest size, either a 2.8 or a 2.6 i started seeing a 12lb, when i upgraded my impeller i started seeing 14 at times.
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Sorry guys I do not frequently go on this forum so I haven't replied. Basically what got me the increase of the HP was the pulley size change to 2.87. I also did a re-tune and installed a 3.64 diff off a Z4 ( since my car is a auto ).

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so op you have a 330 correct? and your running a vf stage what kit? sounds like a stage 1 plus intercooler but that setup really puts out 345 whp? hard to imagine stage 1 producing that much
328 actually. I'm not really running a VF kit at all anymore. The only thing on the car that's VF is the supercharger bracket. The software, intercooler kit ( custom built ) + everything else is not from VF. It's more of a MalibuMafiaV stage 2.5 kit
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