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Old 01-22-2012, 01:20 PM   #1
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Car won't start

So I tired turning on my 330ci 2003 but it makes like a weird gurgle sounding noise sounds half electric like half waterish noise all lights turn on radio everything don't know what it might be ran perfectly fine two days ago
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:23 PM   #2
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Also the key locks after I try it ....
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:34 PM   #3
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Use multimeter or cluster test. It could just be the battery.

If you can get it started with a jump or kick start, just drive for about 20 mins....because the battery might just be weak, not dead.

That lights are on doesn't mean battery is good. Most of the power goes to start the car.

It isn't cranking, I assume.

Try another key...then you can also search here for 'no start' in thread titles. There are many reasons the car won't start, but quite often, seems to be just the battery.

Voltage from battery should be around 12.x V and when running, 13.x (close to 14 is good...13, just barely okay)
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:39 PM   #4
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Use multimeter or cluster test. It could just be the battery.

If you can get it started with a jump or kick start, just drive for about 20 mins....because the battery might just be weak, not dead.

That lights are on doesn't mean battery is good. Most of the power goes to start the car.

It isn't cranking, I assume.

Try another key...then you can also search here for 'no start' in thread titles. There are many reasons the car won't start, but quite often, seems to be just the battery.

Voltage from battery should be around 12.x V and when running, 13.x (close to 14 is good...13, just barely okay)
Yea it isn't even clicking I'm gonna try and jump it thanks for the help let you know what happens...
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:44 PM   #5
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Yea it isn't even clicking I'm gonna try and jump it thanks for the help let you know what happens...
Good luck! Search for the cluster test...nice little on board diagnostic!

If you can't find it, just pm me your number and I'll walk you through it...it's very easy!
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:39 PM   #6
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Good luck! Search for the cluster test...nice little on board diagnostic!

If you can't find it, just pm me your number and I'll walk you through it...it's very easy!
Well I did the cluster and my battery is at the 12 v when off so now when I try and start it it makes a click noise but then that's it
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:24 AM   #7
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I had multiple clicks when my battery died recently. No crank; just clicking.

I read somewhere here that a single click means something else. I believe it's the starter solenoid, but I can't swear by that.

If you searched 'alt single click' you might find something, but someone here will know, I'm sure, for sure!

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Old 01-23-2012, 09:46 AM   #8
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You can get a single click with a bad battery if its weak enough. OP, just try boosting car first, if it boosts, you know its battery related. If not, move on to starter. Simple as that.
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Update well I tried jumping it letting it sit for 20 min while revving the other car and still nothing tried searching around and saw all types of possibilities, but is the key supposed to lock after one turn?? Usually in other cars I can keep trying to crank it without turning it to the off pos
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If you search 'no start' threads, you'll see a lot of possibles. It might just be your key is bad, though I don't know if you'd click at all with a bad key.

Also, connections get loose, corrosion builds up...wiggle your battery cables...search the major grounds...there's a bit of stuff you can check before you start buying parts.
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I'd rather take it to the dealer or an independent shop before throwing parts at it before you know what's wrong.

What I can do for you is give a few more backyard mechanic diagnostic tricks in leu of proper diagnostic tools.

As dmax said, check your connections first.

Is the car standard? If so, try push starting it. If you can push start it then you know its the starter.

If its an automatic, try getting a hammer or whatever you can use to give some decent taps to the starter. Give it repeating hits while someone else tries to start it. If it turns over, you know its the starter. (This may fail to start it and it could still end up being the starter, but if it works you know what it is)

Beyond that, if its the key or any of the anti-theft systems, your beyond the scope of backyard mechanics or even most independent shops.

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Old 01-23-2012, 11:16 PM   #12
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Thanks to everyone for the info I reached my backyard mechanic limit and just get frustrated lol so I'm gonna get it towed by Usaa and will let y'all know what the final out come is!
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Thanks to everyone for the info I reached my backyard mechanic limit and just get frustrated lol so I'm gonna get it towed by Usaa and will let y'all know what the final out come is!
There must be another Fanatic on base...did you try shouting out in the regional forum for someone nearby with a Peake tool?

Oh, also, when you jump started it, if you jumped from under the hood, you might try jumping directly to the battery.

One guy I remember had corrosion under one of his terminals under the hood...you have to remove them to see beneath.

Don't recall if I suggested to search here for ground locations...a main ground going bad will mess things up.

You tried another key? Another trick is to leave one key near where the ews unit's antenna is...which I think is in the C pillar...and use another key.

Did you use advanced search for 'no start.'

I'd hate to see you towed if all you really need is a new battery...and it could just be that. You could maybe drop in a battery of a friend.

Often these things are just a little thing...sometimes, though, it's a sensor (like crankshaft position sensor) which would be a pain to find without a code reader.
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:03 PM   #14
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There must be another Fanatic on base...did you try shouting out in the regional forum for someone nearby with a Peake tool?

Oh, also, when you jump started it, if you jumped from under the hood, you might try jumping directly to the battery.

One guy I remember had corrosion under one of his terminals under the hood...you have to remove them to see beneath.

Don't recall if I suggested to search here for ground locations...a main ground going bad will mess things up.

You tried another key? Another trick is to leave one key near where the ews unit's antenna is...which I think is in the C pillar...and use another key.

Did you use advanced search for 'no start.'

I'd hate to see you towed if all you really need is a new battery...and it could just be that. You could maybe drop in a battery of a friend.

Often these things are just a little thing...sometimes, though, it's a sensor (like crankshaft position sensor) which would be a pain to find without a code reader.
Well I tried jumping straight from the battery in the back and still no luck I'm gonna ask my buddy to see if he has one of the peake tools tomorrow hopefully it is just the battery
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... try push starting it/tapping on the starter, you'll know real fast.
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... try push starting it/tapping on the starter, you'll know real fast.
Well my luck finally turned I found some one who's a certified BMW mechanic and I tried doing the starter tap but still no luck and my cars automatic push start still work?
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You have a ghost in the car it sounds like.
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You have a ghost in the car it sounds like.
Who u gonna call??
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Hi all. This is my first post. Anyway, I have a similar issue with my car. You might want to try and reprogram your key. It worked for me. I'm not sure why the key looses its information but it is easy to reprogram the key. Try this:

1 - sit in car with all doors closed
2 - put key in ignition
3 - turn key to first position
4 - remove key
5 - hold unlock button on key
6 - hit lock button 3 times quickly while holding down the unlock button - the car should lock then unlock
7 - release unlock button
8 - start your car like normal

I just had to do this on my way back home from work today. Good luck.
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