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Old 11-01-2011, 03:49 AM   #1
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Sheriff in SC "Time for Citizens to Arm Themselves"

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Will be nice when we have a president that says the same thing.
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Why resort to guns? Let's carry nukes straight away...
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Anybody from the area with a little back story on this sheriff?

What's his angle?

More money for the budget?
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The sheriff was angry. The man is tired of scumbags skating through the legal system after he arrests them...then getting out to hurt folks! Usually women.
We should all be angry about stuff like this!

In most states, concealed carry is a good option. I agree with him.


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So u need to arm yourself because it's so rough in NYC? Lol

Looks like some people feel like their super heroes when they have a gun
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Looks like some people feel like their super heroes when they have a gun
i'm just happy lance was a white because if that wasn't the case and the sherriff called him an animal numerous times , i bet i would be seeing your screen name pop up more than a few times on here.
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So u need to arm yourself because it's so rough in NYC? Lol

Looks like some people feel like their super heroes when they have a gun
Some of us will just throw our ipods at the baddies.
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I carry a gun but it does not make me feel like a superhero. It does mean that if I am faced with a violent criminal attack I am more capable of protecting myself than those who are unarmed. In the 15 years I've been issued or owned my own gun, I have never removed my gun from the holster outside of the range or my house for cleaning or swapping holsters. I hope it stays that way. If not, then it is because I needed it. If that is the case, I'll be happy in the knowledge that I had it and was not another helpless victim.

The victim in this article is just another statistic to many people. To this sheriff, she is a woman he couldn't protect and who was unable to protect herself. After seeing this same situation, or similar, for years he is publicly asking that people take steps to protect themselves when he and his men can't be there. I think that's a good thing for him to do. I honestly don't understand why this message isn't out there more often from LEO's. How many times can a cop show up to the victims of violent attacks before they start looking for ways to minimize the number of attacks and try to get less negative outcomes when attacks do occur?
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I carry a gun but it does not make me feel like a superhero. It does mean that if I am faced with a violent criminal attack I am more capable of protecting myself than those who are unarmed. In the 15 years I've been issued or owned my own gun, I have never removed my gun from the holster outside of the range or my house for cleaning or swapping holsters. I hope it stays that way. If not, then it is because I needed it. If that is the case, I'll be happy in the knowledge that I had it and was not another helpless victim.

The victim in this article is just another statistic to many people. To this sheriff, she is a woman he couldn't protect and who was unable to protect herself. After seeing this same situation, or similar, for years he is publicly asking that people take steps to protect themselves when he and his men can't be there. I think that's a good thing for him to do. I honestly don't understand why this message isn't out there more often from LEO's. How many times can a cop show up to the victims of violent attacks before they start looking for ways to minimize the number of attacks and try to get less negative outcomes when attacks do occur?
To answer this question is a bit rough. The truth however is that there are a large number of law enforcement officers that chose their profession first for the power; protecting people is more of a second in their minds. I have had this conversation with more than one police officer; people I know on a personal level. The stories that don't make it into the paper tell the real tales.
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Show me how, at a federal level, gun laws have become more strict over the past few years.

As far as I am concerned, federal gun laws are little changed, except now we are able to carry in National Parks
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Show me how, at a federal level, gun laws have become more strict over the past few years.

As far as I am concerned, federal gun laws are little changed, except now we are able to carry in National Parks
I think he means that Obama is for more strict gun regulations.

What that sheriff, and others around the country, should do is set up monthly or bi-monthly free/reduced price CCW classes to the public. They could be taught by the SO's weapons instructor and deputies could mentor students. This would ensure the people got proper training, while offering positive public relations and a sense of trust between the SO and the public.
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The sheriff was angry. The man is tired of scumbags skating through the legal system after he arrests them...then getting out to hurt folks! Usually women.
We should all be angry about stuff like this!

In most states, concealed carry is a good option. I agree with him.


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It gets annoying when you deal with the same people over and over again. Case in point- we arrested a kid named Eddie Nguyen. He has a drug problem. He has been breaking into cars since he was 15. When he was 17, he started breaking into houses. We did a search warrant on his house and located stolen medications, electronics, narcotics, credit cards, checks, the works. He has been arrested before, but because he's a juvi, he gets another slap on the wrist. He turns 18, and we were able to connect him to 4 home-invasion burglaries that he did in the area at night. He made no intentional contact with anyone, but people did bust him in the act and he and his buddy Michael fled. We arrested him, and he got sentenced to 16 months in prison. He was out in less than a year. (Michael was tied to some other incidents in MN and other states, so he's still locked up). Eddie gets out of the klink about 2 months ago and moves back into his parents' house. Within 2 days, we have 3 daytime burglaries on homes. Same M.O.- stolen electronics, stolen booze, same point of entry. The revolving door of justice worked again!
Now, just imagine if during one of those home invasions, grandpa comes out with the ol' trusty 12ga and pops Eddie with some 00 Buck or 6 shot at about 8 feet. Problem solved. Imagine the savings to the tax payers for no more court costs; or the safety of the rest of the public for never having to worry about being victimized by this dirtbag ever again.

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I carry a gun but it does not make me feel like a superhero. It does mean that if I am faced with a violent criminal attack I am more capable of protecting myself than those who are unarmed. In the 15 years I've been issued or owned my own gun, I have never removed my gun from the holster outside of the range or my house for cleaning or swapping holsters. I hope it stays that way. If not, then it is because I needed it. If that is the case, I'll be happy in the knowledge that I had it and was not another helpless victim.

The victim in this article is just another statistic to many people. To this sheriff, she is a woman he couldn't protect and who was unable to protect herself. After seeing this same situation, or similar, for years he is publicly asking that people take steps to protect themselves when he and his men can't be there. I think that's a good thing for him to do. I honestly don't understand why this message isn't out there more often from LEO's. How many times can a cop show up to the victims of violent attacks before they start looking for ways to minimize the number of attacks and try to get less negative outcomes when attacks do occur?
When it comes to defending yourself, it's not about being a hero. It's about understanding that when someone tries to attack you or rob you, the police aren't going to be there right away to save the day. You act based on your need and desire for self-preservation. I don't know about you, but if carrying a gun makes me look like I want to be a hero to you, then I can easily send you a hi-res photo of me in my spandex and a ski mask and you can put it up on your wall.

Why do cops carry off-duty? We carry because we deal with the scum of the earth, and we know that these people exist, and they can do anything they want anywhere they want. The last thing I want is to deal with a criminal off duty. I have seen enough stabbings and beatings to know that carrying a gun is a potential life saving measure. I carry a gun for the same reason I spend 10-12 hours per week in the weight room: I want to have the tools there when I need them. I want to be ready. I refuse to be a victim.

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To answer this question is a bit rough. The truth however is that there are a large number of law enforcement officers that chose their profession first for the power; protecting people is more of a second in their minds. I have had this conversation with more than one police officer; people I know on a personal level. The stories that don't make it into the paper tell the real tales.
This is often true. You see it a lot more in states where the educational requirement for law enforcement is basically non-existent. It's also notable to recognize that cops are like regular people, in that they have the same varying backgrounds. A Los Angeles PD cop is likely going to be more anti-gun, but a sheriff's deputy in rural Jackson County, Wisconsin will likely be pretty pro-gun because they are used to being around them.
Also, many cops who publicly extoll anti-gun rhetoric are usually chiefs, administrators, or police union/organization officials. These are typically people who are not cops, or have not been on the street in any legitimate capacity in the past 10 years and probably couldn't handle a simple traffic stop without jacking things up. Most of these administrators are politicians of some form, and most of them are jackasses.

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I think he means that Obama is for more strict gun regulations.

What that sheriff, and others around the country, should do is set up monthly or bi-monthly free/reduced price CCW classes to the public. They could be taught by the SO's weapons instructor and deputies could mentor students. This would ensure the people got proper training, while offering positive public relations and a sense of trust between the SO and the public.
The sheriff's office in the county I work in does firearms training courses (that stresses gun safety) free of charge to county residents. It has gone over exceptionally well with all positive reviews by the attendees. People who are responsibly introduced to guns have an advantage over those that don't. I think it should be the responsibility of law enforcement to make sure their populace has the tools necessary to safely defend themselves. Switzerland does it, and it works for them.

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Reedo could have written a fairly lengthy book by now, haha. All good stuff though.
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