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Old 11-01-2011, 07:13 AM   #1
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Looking for a 12 Guage...Help!

Hey guys, I have decided I want to pick up a 12 gauge. From talking to various people, I think I am convinced in going with an 870 instead of the Mossy500. Now, before I go on, anyone care to talk me out of an 870 for HD and occasional recreational shooting? If not, continue....I am looking for the Marine version, which is the stainless model, which goes for about $700 +/- a few bucks. Care to talk me out of the marine model? Waste of money? Any other suggestions for a higher quality, RELIABLE as a wood stove shotgun for the money?

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Old 11-01-2011, 08:47 AM   #2
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I've hunted with Remington 870 Wingmasters before and loved them. If I were you, I'd go for something of the like with a full choke for recreational shooting. If you want something more customizable and badass, check out the 870 Tactical. The Marine Special Purpose looks pretty and seems like it would hold up against the elements, but I don't think you're going to be dropping it in salt water. Besides, if you properly maintain and take care of your gun, corrosion is out of the question.

I currently shoot an old Browning I inherited from my grandfather. I'm not exactly sure how old it is, but it feeds and ejects out the bottom. It's won me many turkey shoots, too (just last weekend, I scored a $50 prepaid Visa gift card).
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I like the fact that on the marine model, EVERYTHING is metal. No plastic parts, which is a big sell to me.
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I like the fact that on the marine model, EVERYTHING is metal. No plastic parts, which is a big sell to me.
I think my Browning is a BPS Hunter. Like I said... it's old. Probably 15+ years old. It shoots like it's brand new. All you have to do is take care of whatever gun you buy every now and then and it will last a long, long time.

I also enjoy shooting the 870 Wingmaster because it always feels right to me. Doesn't matter if it's my own or someone else's... it just feels natural every single time.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:57 AM   #5
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That's a pretty no-nonsense gun. You get all of the basics, no frills. For HD, it's a good purchase. I would look into a Knoxx Spec-Ops collapsible stock, but short of that, it's a good gun. An 870 is the better choice, IMO.
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For HD, I don't know that I'd want stainless/nickel finish simply because of the possibility of light reflecting off of it. I know it is a minor concern, but if someone is in my house I want every advantage I can get.

Just food for though. The marine is a nice piece regardless.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:33 AM   #7
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For HD, I don't know that I'd want stainless/nickel finish simply because of the possibility of light reflecting off of it. I know it is a minor concern, but if someone is in my house I want every advantage I can get.

Just food for though. The marine is a nice piece regardless.
I figured if I mouted a light on it, the reflection aspect is moot, but I do understand your concern. However, It is VERY hard for (in the NY.NJ area) for you to have the "pitch black" advantage. Street lights, moon, computer LEDs, etc all give off enough light that you can actually see a person anyway.
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Mossy feels and looks cheap... I went with an 870, but look into Benneli supernova's - great guns for waterfowl/hunting.
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when i was looking at getting a 12ga, i was in the same predicament as you. i wanted a marine 870 but the price was out of reach. first off i like the look of the 870 over the moss500 and i the safety position, but i hate the release location on it. ( i have to reach my finger too far). On the moss500 its right under the trigger guard. BUT im a boss, so i went with the 870 HD, i do not regret my decision
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The safety is your finger, don't buy a gun based on the safety location.
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If a gun comes with an external safety, the location needs to be ergonomic and something that you can use if needed. The same thing is true of mag releases, forward assists, etc.

Ultimately yes, your safety is your trigger finger, but a firearm's features need to be easy for the user to manipulate.
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If a gun comes with an external safety, the location needs to be ergonomic and something that you can use if needed. The same thing is true of mag releases, forward assists, etc.

Ultimately yes, your safety is your trigger finger, but a firearm's features need to be easy for the user to manipulate.
Agreed. Safety is not a big concern, but if the gun is equipped with one, I'd like it to be in a convenient place.
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Agreed. Safety is not a big concern, but if the gun is equipped with one, I'd like it to be in a convenient place.
Look for one with a slide safety, located on the backside of the receiver where the stock meets it. Much more convenient than a traditional button safety.
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For HD, I don't know that I'd want stainless/nickel finish simply because of the possibility of light reflecting off of it. I know it is a minor concern, but if someone is in my house I want every advantage I can get.

Just food for though. The marine is a nice piece regardless.
This is one reason I went with the mossberg mariner instead of the 870. The mariner comes with a matte finish.

Getting the marine version is definitely worth it if you live on any of the islands in lower NY. My guns pick up rust inside my house, just from leaving the window open. The saltwater breeze is no good for guns.
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If you want a good shotgun for home defense/recreational use. Do you prefer a pump gun?
What kind of shooting will you be doing? Trap? Sporting clays? Skeet? Five stand? Slug shooting? Any possible hunting in your future?

Short barreled HD guns are good for HD, but not much else, other than maybe slug shooting.
If you want versatility, get a decent quality shotgun with a 26" or 28" barrel with screw-in chokes. Of the two models that you mentioned I have owned both at one time. I prefer the 870, but the older Wingmasters were much nicer. Find a nice used Wingmaster with a barrel that has screw-in chokes. You can save some money and get a nicer gun at the same time.
For new, check out the Nova...well built and reliable.
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