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E46 Convertible
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Back edge of top hits legs on underside of cover on open
I have an intermittant problem when I open the top. Occasionally the back edge of the top snags on what I guess are support legs on the underside of the storage compartment lid. It seems like the hydrallic system looses a little pressure causing the lid to shift slightly forward right as the back edge reaches the support legs. The were foot extensions on the bottom of the legs that I removed to get additional clearance but still can get a snag. I now only open the top up with the key so that I can manually hold the lid back in case in sags downward. Any thoughts on what maybe be causing this. One Indy BMW repair shop thought that I would have to replace the hydrallic pump.
Pic Attached. The camera angle in this shot makes it look like the edge will hit the leg. But this time the lid did not droop and there was adequate clearance. |
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 44
My Ride: 2001 325Ci Cabriolet
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I too experience the same problem occasionally but not as bad... It'll hit the rubber stoppers and then the deck lid will adjust and it'll close...
I'm unsure on the cause of the problem as it only happens occasionally... |
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 315
My Ride: 2004 330CIC
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Did the BMW indy check to make sure you had the proper amount of hydraulic fluid in the unit?
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It was a while back so I don't remember that it was specifically checked. But checking the fluid level is a good recommendation. I just downloaded info on how to do that today and will take a look at it tomorrow.
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I decided to check the fluid level today. Looks OK. At $1,000 for a new hydraulic pump, I can continue to stand outside, use the key and make sure the lid stays high enough for the edge to clear. Funny though that the top has never hung up when I am closing it.
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 315
My Ride: 2004 330CIC
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You might want to lube all the pivot points on the roof and cover to see if that helps the operation.
I would be standing outside and assisting as well for $1000.
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: kingston, ontario, canada
Posts: 95
My Ride: 2004 330ci Vert
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If indeed it is your pump, check ebay for used parts. Here is a link....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E46-CONV...item43a55221ab I purchased from this vendor. All went well... Make him a cash offer.... Lots of self help for install on the net. Make sure your vert functions as you expect it should.... If you can manually open lid completely, and it clears the roof, it sounds like your hydraulic cylinders that power the lid are getting weak and not fully opening the lid. Given your vehicle is 10 years old, the seals on the hydraulic cylinders could be wearing out. If this is the case, they need to be replaced or remanufactured. See http://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/index.html I've just sent two of mine to Klaus for repair under recommendation from another Forum contributor. Always replace in pairs.... Here's another resource for diagnostics. http://www.bmwtech.ru/pdf/e46/ST034/...ible%20Top.pdf Hope this helps..... Last edited by gbakerkingston; 11-09-2011 at 07:34 AM. |
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I got a used pump from Bavarian Auto Recycling on the web at www.bmrparts.com The total with shipping was $400. If your pump continues to weaken, you will eventually be using your own hands to do most of the work required to put the top up-or-down. My mechanic charged $45 to replace the pump.
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Hey Op,
did you ever get a resolution to this problem? I have the same issue with my top and would like to see if it was low hydraulic fluid level or if it was the pump? TIA |
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: kingston, ontario, canada
Posts: 95
My Ride: 2004 330ci Vert
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Bump.
Anybody have insight into this issue? The roof of my vert has recently started to touch the lid as noted. Any solutions out there? |
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It is really easy to check you pump fluid level. Start there.
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On my car the fluid level checked out OK. The fluid level needs to checked with the top down and fully stowed. Resivor is located in the trunk, driver's side. Need to open up the lining to get at it. What I ended up doing is removing the feet on the top supports to give more clearance. When I open the top I use the key in the driver's side and manually prop up the lid with my right hand to insure that the lid stays up and does not snag the top edge as it lowers into the boot. A patch I know, but never did find out the source of the underlying problem.
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: kingston, ontario, canada
Posts: 95
My Ride: 2004 330ci Vert
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Your post is over a year old, with no forum readers affirmation of cause. Sure would be nice to have validation of cause, and a proven solution. One more time around the block...... Anybody out there offering an experienced satisfactory repair?
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convertible storage compartment lid adjustment.
Hi Guys.. You can adjust how "far" or "high" the storage compartment lid opens by the following... Open the trunk and pull the left side rear lining back - in the area where the antenna comes thru the body. Look in that area and you will see a bracket holding a hydraulic cylinder. That bracket is adjustable... moves front to rear. Loosen the 3 (2?) bolts and slide the bracket I believe to the rear a 1/4" or so.. tighten and try the top. It's been a few months since I adjusted mine so it might be move to the front... anyway by adjusting that bracket front to rear adjusts how far up or back the storage compartment lid opens.
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: kingston, ontario, canada
Posts: 95
My Ride: 2004 330ci Vert
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^^^^. Thanks! You're the best! I'll give it a go.
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alright, let me know how it works out for you. I came across this adjustment by accident a while back...I completely dropped that bracket to have room to remove and replace the antenna base ( I replaced the antenna base and installed a short sport antenna) After it was all back together the top would hang up the those 2 lid foot pad things. I went back and realize that bracket wasn't in the same place ( front to rear). I think there is a hall sensor attached to that bracket that moves with the bracket that senses the hydraulic cylinder shaft position or something.
Last edited by socks210; 12-19-2012 at 03:19 PM. |
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