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Old 12-28-2015, 06:56 PM   #1
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Looking for a new laptop

I'm seriously considering a Macbook Air and wiping it to run linux because I love their hardware but OSX blows a fat one. But, if there are other options of similar build quality I'm open to suggestions. I've looked at the Asus Zenbook line and they look good but I know nothing about Asus as a company or their reliability. Lenovo's X1 Carbon is solid but I'd rather not buy something from a company who ships products with malware from the factory. What are my other options? I don't want anything really big, so 13" is preferable, and I need decent computing power.
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I just got issued my new X1 Carbon today.

i7, .5TB SSD, touch screen, <3lbs, great trackpad.

Thing is tiny, slim, super powerful - i love it.

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Old 12-28-2015, 07:18 PM   #3
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why does OS X blow a fat one
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I just got issued my new X1 Carbon today.

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Thing is tiny, slim, super powerful - i love it.
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why does OS X blow a fat one
It's too locked down and small things that would keep an average user from screwing up the OS piss me off to no end. For instance: Having to type an admin password in multiple times when making just about any change to the preferences that require admin access, even logged in as an admin user. The file structure is ridiculous, I don't want to have to download applications from a third party and then go through the motions of installing when Linux has repositories allowing me to install with a single command, the terminal doesn't close when you type "exit" (small, but really...why?).
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Can't you just run it in a VM like everyone else?

You could always just flash the drive and put whatever you want on there.

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I could, I could also run Windows and OSX as a VM too when I need them. Why run a host OS that I don't like just to run a VM of the OS I want?
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Thats what I am saying.

Why not just blow away windows and put whatever you want on there?
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I really like Asus, pretty much every laptop I've ever owned has been one, with the exception of a Dell that I got in the late 90s before I knew any better.
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Thats what I am saying.

Why not just blow away windows and put whatever you want on there?
Ohhh I'm with you now. I'll look for the article but I think I remember reading something that said they were installing malware in the BIOS, so wiping a drive still wouldn't remove it.
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I really like Asus, pretty much every laptop I've ever owned has been one, with the exception of a Dell that I got in the late 90s before I knew any better.
I'm looking at the XPS Developer editions, but I really would like a metal body. I had an XPS laptop that ran strong from 2005-2013 until the charger died and I was too lazy to get a new one.
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If you are planning on a macbook, get a pro. They are still very thin, but more powerful and have good resale in case you're not happy.
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And not even close to the same price as a regular model. I'm staring to lean toward a non-mac now though, it looks like there are too many hurdles to jump through to get linux running on a Mac and even then there are still small things that don't work 100%.
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If you're not going to be running OSX I'd look elsewhere. Im ordering a new imac shortly
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i have a macbook pro from 2009 that runs better than most new PCs. i also have a 2014 macbook pro retina that is just as well. actually better because it has a SSD and makes literally no noise whatsoever. and doesn't get hot at all. like zero heat.
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i have a macbook pro from 2009 that runs better than most new PCs. i also have a 2014 macbook pro retina that is just as well. actually better because it has a SSD and makes literally no noise whatsoever. and doesn't get hot at all. like zero heat.
Same story. Have a 2009 macbook bro that I bought a new battery for and an SSD and it's blazing fast, and runs better than my wife's new HP that she got from work. No need to replace it.
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All I know is I bought a top of the line Lenovo Thinkpad and when the motherboard crapped out on me they wouldnt support the product at all even though I was out of warranty. They wanted over $1k to fix it plus shipping.

Have you looked at Sager? I have no idea about the quality but the components are supposed to be pretty customizable and high end.
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Anyone know if ultrabooks can be upgraded or is all of the hardware integrated and off limits?

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Or maybe they'll wipe the hard drive.

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