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Old 03-04-2013, 08:35 PM   #281
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all that money and completely worthless offroad with 8" of clearance. what a turd.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:19 PM   #282
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all that money and completely worthless offroad with 8" of clearance. what a turd.
Dude you do realize not everyone rockcrawls right? That looks like an excellent overland vehicle to me. You don't want monster tires and a large lift for an overland vehicle.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:16 PM   #283
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right. i definitely wouldn't be crawling with that truck because i'd be dragging him over everything because he would be constantly hung up on dumb things. overlanding is absolutely about high clearance rigs with larger tires. they aren't as tall as crawlers, but clearance is a must.

the truck pictured is definitely not an overlander. those tires can't be aired down, and even if there was less rim and more tire, you still couldn't air down because it would absolutely kill the little clearance it already has. sorry, but that truck isn't ideal for anything more than a fire road or pavement.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:27 PM   #284
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heres a good example; high clearance and lots of room for supplies and equipment.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:59 PM   #285
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Generally, from what I read on expedition portal and a heap of other sources, an overlanding rig should have the LEAST amount of lift possible (if any) to get the job done and SKINNY tires. Having a large lift is detrimental since most true overland rigs have roof racks with heavy loads, and a big lift could result in extremely easy rollovers. I agree with you about the tires/wheels on that rig, they are far too low profile for serious overlanding, however, as for ground clearance, the rig you posted seems to have basically the same sort of clearance as that Tundra....remember, no matter how high the body is, the axles are still pretty low. It's also the photo, I can't honestly tell how big that gap is, if it's 8" like you say or 14", but basically, we are in agreement.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:14 PM   #286
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the least amount "to get the job done" is subjective to what the job is, but the quality of the lift is going to matter the most- a true suspension lift rather than a drop bracket lift like that tundra. a solid front axle is tremendously better than an ifs rig for overlanding for many reasons. thats the difference between the rigs posted.

ideal tire size is debatable based on the terrain. mud and swamps, you're going to want pizza cutters. desert, you're going to want fat donuts. the main point i'm pushing is that tundra is worthless and would be a real hassle on anything more than a fire road.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:44 PM   #287
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Had some fun yesterday... First time in the dirt with the new Bilsteins and tires.

Where abouts is that?

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heres a good example; high clearance and lots of room for supplies and equipment.
It's so... beautiful.

Found more of it,
http://pangaea-expeditions.com/coloradofallcolors/
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the least amount "to get the job done" is subjective to what the job is, but the quality of the lift is going to matter the most- a true suspension lift rather than a drop bracket lift like that tundra. a solid front axle is tremendously better than an ifs rig for overlanding for many reasons. thats the difference between the rigs posted.

ideal tire size is debatable based on the terrain. mud and swamps, you're going to want pizza cutters. desert, you're going to want fat donuts. the main point i'm pushing is that tundra is worthless and would be a real hassle on anything more than a fire road.
In all fairness, it seems that rig is a manufacturer/shop display vehicle which will see as much offroad dirt as my s2000.

On all your other points, spot on, and I agree.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:36 AM   #289
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right.

i've done my share of expedition wheeling, mostly through the anza borrego desert. there is a really cool area in a place called coyote canyon where an underground stream surfaces and there is a swamp in the middle of the desert.

a peak at my typical payload.


i've come across caves, mines, mud pits etc.,





bring your jeep out to cali for some wheeling! most people from the east coast are completely blown away by how cool the desert is.
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I picked this up for 5k, and made it my daily. It's a 2004 Land Rover Discovery. Has 130k miles with a recent rebuilt engine. I put almost 2k more into it fixing small things and making it more off road ready. I love it and for nearly 7k total it's unbeatable for off road and luxury combined. My buddy just bought a 2013 Wrangler Sahara, which is very nice, but it doesn't do anything mine can't (except having navi). He paid over 35k for it. Just saying if you want some luxury and off road capability, these are a great choice if you can find a good one. The 2004 is the best year for a few reasons. The only disclaimer is that you must like working on cars every so often, because it will have small things here and there that will need attention. The main problem with them is head gaskets, but if you get one that has had it done already and you keep the coolant system running well, it's unstoppable.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:58 AM   #291
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We had a 1995 Discovery in white similar to that. God I loved that rig back when...if it hadn't turned into quite the money pool it did I wish we would have kept it so I could have used it more.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:01 AM   #292
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The disco is a very capable overland rig. It actually got an honorable mention in the expedition portal top 10 overlanders. The LR3 edged it out.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/reso...-vehicles.html
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:28 AM   #293
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The disco is a very capable overland rig. It actually got an honorable mention in the expedition portal top 10 overlanders. The LR3 edged it out.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/reso...-vehicles.html
It's the maintenance and reliability that really knock it down. The engine in mine is a 1960s Buick V8 design that has been tweaked and bored repeatedly. My year (04) was the last year they used it. It's a 4.6 all aluminum block that was designed to be iron, hence the head gasket problems. I installed a low temp thermostat, digital oil psi and water temp gauges to monitor situations up there. As long as you keep the temps down they are reliable, believe it or not. The stock temp gauge doesn't read hot until it's far too late, so a separate temp gauge and sensor is a must. So many soccer moms drive them hot and that all aluminum block just can't take it. It happened to mine before I bought it. The lady had just paid for a $6k engine rebuild from letting it overheat. It was making noises (which ended up being a loose exhaust and bad cats) so she decided to dump it and I got it for 5k. I cut off the cats and fixed the exhaust rattle and it runs great. I've also replaced the water pump, brake master cylinder, O2 sensors, fixed a couple roof leaks, and other small things to make it how I want it. I added a 2'' lift and 32'' treadwright tires and it is a beast off road. All for under 7k total. I love it, but if I had no mechanical knowledge or was not willing to work on it here and there, I'd probably hate it. For DIYers though it's an absolute steal.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:35 AM   #294
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It's the maintenance and reliability that really knock it down. The engine in mine is a 1960s Buick V8 design that has been tweaked and bored repeatedly. My year (04) was the last year they used it. It's a 4.6 all aluminum block that was designed to be iron, hence the head gasket problems. I installed a low temp thermostat, digital oil psi and water temp gauges to monitor situations up there. As long as you keep the temps down they are reliable, believe it or not. The stock temp gauge doesn't read hot until it's far too late, so a separate temp gauge and sensor is a must. So many soccer moms drive them hot and that all aluminum block just can't take it. It happened to mine before I bought it. The lady had just paid for a $6k engine rebuild from letting it overheat. It was making noises (which ended up being a loose exhaust and bad cats) so she decided to dump it and I got it for 5k. I cut off the cats and fixed the exhaust rattle and it runs great. I've also replaced the water pump, brake master cylinder, O2 sensors, fixed a couple roof leaks, and other small things to make it how I want it. I added a 2'' lift and 32'' treadwright tires and it is a beast off road. All for under 7k total. I love it, but if I had no mechanical knowledge or was not willing to work on it here and there, I'd probably hate it. For DIYers though it's an absolute steal.
Definitely sounds like a home mechanic vehicle. How hard is it to fix out in the bush?
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So I think I've decided the route I will be going with for grille/ initial light options.

Going to Satoshi the front and then mount a Rigid LED light bar behind it w/in the grille.

Something like this w/o the Toyota:



And then a 30" LED bar:

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Old 03-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #296
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Definitely sounds like a home mechanic vehicle. How hard is it to fix out in the bush?
Luckily, I haven't had to, but I carry a good tool set that could fix nearly anything that would break off road. These were made for bush fixes with their safari/overland background.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:21 AM   #297
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Near Lake Elsinore & Lake Matthews, CA... BLM land so you can shoot also.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:43 AM   #299
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bring your jeep out to cali for some wheeling! most people from the east coast are completely blown away by how cool the desert is.
I always wanted to go Jeepin around the redwoods area. Looks amazing. Maybe even yellowstone as well. Im going to Colorado in the summer, but don't think I will have enough time to drive it out all the way to Cali, and then back to Jersey. It would just eat too much time driving.
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