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Old 11-15-2011, 05:32 AM   #41
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Talking the new "noughties" shape ones V8 Vantage, V12 Vantage.
I was thinking when I buy my next car to look at importing a V12 Vantage from the UK.

Good to hear the maintainence of a V8 is similar to Porsche but sad to hear you say V12 is not as reliable....
I don't know if you can import the AM as I thought they were imported under full ADR as part of the Premium Ford Product Div...

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Old 11-15-2011, 06:24 AM   #42
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I gave serious thought to importing a new Vantage myself, until I remembered that I can barely afford to service my E46.

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Old 11-15-2011, 06:54 AM   #43
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Mate stay away is the advice i have been given. I was thinking about the quattroporte given the price they now are, asked a guy i ride with who wholesales that end of the market and he just laughed. He refuses to sell them retail as they have that many issues. Don't know what but that was enough to keep me away.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:18 AM   #44
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I suggest avoiding the headaches...there's just that many rumours going around, it's prob not worth wasting your time with an old mazza, even though they are ridiculously cheap and tempting!!

Also, I'll just vouch again for Sam's car, I've seen it a couple of times and it's always spotless! I'm pretty sure he resprays the front panels on an annual basis just to keep it all looking fresh...I don't know anyone else that is quite that anal hahah

Btw, if you were thinking about a 360, my suggestion is to avoid that as well. I recently drove a 360 F1 spider, 16,000kms, aus delivered, full ferrari service history...in my opinion it's pretty sh*t to drive and I'd much rather be driving the e92 M3. Servicing costs for the F430 should be much lower than 360s as well as they changed from a timing belt to timing chain (you might need to double check that), but definitely the F430 is a car you can use daily and pile on the KMs without any issues.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:57 AM   #45
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yeh, your spot on taxxed , i checked and rechecked re the 360 , and my neighbour has one and every 6 months it sound like horse and he needs to take it in ... but then wow what a car :|

I think unfortunately for my heart, my head will prevail and ill be back in an e46 for the fourth time !

nice place to be mind you
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:14 AM   #46
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Wow - $6,000 in regular service for every 25,000k's?

I take it you weren't letting the dealer "pull the wool" either?

This sort of justifies my logic for sticking with the 330 over the M3.

What type of items were you being hit for? Brakes? Fluids? what else?
Mate, i owned my 325ci for nearly 6 years, your looking at $3-4k in maintenance costs per annum incl. tyres. Just because it doesn't cost you that in year one, doesn't mean it won't in the long run.

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I think unfortunately for my heart, my head will prevail and ill be back in an e46 for the fourth time !

nice place to be mind you
If your avoiding the earlier model Mazers, smart move, years ago i was looking at 3200gt's and along with the prob's Bobz mentioned before there was also the not so small one of steering column failures, which sent several cars going straight around a corner... wouldn't be a fun situation to be in. That put me off them.
As for the Cambio Corsa and the like, yes they're better, but they still look like the 3200 & 4200's and are starting to date. Whereas the GranTurismo and Quattroporte are the new hottness.

Personally, i'm in the 911 camp if your looking at dropping that kind of coin, but hey, if we all had the same taste it'd be pretty boring.
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:59 PM   #47
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The new masers are boats. I wouldn't be surprised if they handled better in the water. It's a shame too as you have to stick with the e46 m3, the only other good looking car I can think of is the new 1 series. Seriously are they just doing this on purpose?
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:48 PM   #48
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why do you want his number Peter?


Ok that was pretty funny
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:25 PM   #49
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another thing you could maybe consider is that Ferrari is about to bring in their new 7 year complimentary servicing policy which if I'm correct in saying, also carries on to future owners once the original owner sells?

if you're looking at a 458, maybe it could be a decent option in a few years time when price drops and you still won't need to worry about servicing costs for a few years.
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:39 PM   #50
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Peter, I dunno man , I love the car ! i been looking at everything and I cant help it, keep coming back to it !

I have a mate with an old Val he has had for 20 yrs, i reckon i will be like that in 20, still rockin an e46 :/

Bobz, you have a very wise head on your shoulders with much useful information !

your far too sensible for my liking though
Me too!! I kept coming back to the E46M every time, nothing compares at that amount of money... I considered P cars, but i have strong ties in the BMW community and like the connections i have with the prices of parts, labour and experience.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:08 PM   #51
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all i can say is the clutch on the F1 4200's last more like 15000km rather than 30000km, and are about 4k to change..................that being said, they are a great weekend car, and i loved every second of being in it. look and sound awesome (this was the gransport, but pretty much the same). i wasn't old enough to drive at that point, so can't comment on that, but its deffs awesome. not a daily driver though.................

something like this would be awesome
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...neSize:Min,Max

edit: and the gransport has a bi-model exhaust. when you open the flap, all hells unleashed!!!!! can't compare the sound of an italian V8 to anything. but it doesn't have nav, unlike the standard ones...........
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:17 PM   #52
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Oh - I thought it was $1K you ALMOST spent??? Please explain... As for my credentials, I work with guys who swap 911 GT3RS with Nissan GTR's, back to 911 Turbos in the space of a couple of months.

I can assure you Porches service costs are far and away below that of Ferrari's even Nissans are absolutely ridiculous on the GTR. Porsche first service at 30,000ks. Drive at redline all day.... IF YOU ARE CONCERNED BY A STEERING WHEEL VALUE - IT'S NOT FOR YOU..... HELL A MASA HEADLAMP IS VALUED AT NEAR 3K - WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT??

PORSCHE 997 HEADLAMP from AUS DEALER $800 (cheaper than a BMW E46!)

I could not give a **** about how YOU want to look in front of anyone. What pisses me off is that you have posted a negative attitude about an item I am trying to sell as an regular enthusiast - not called for. Tired of that ****. Save your un-called for negative opinions. That is what makes this forum on the decline - I can count thousands of people who share the same opinion. You are what is called a "keyboard warrior"

lol u mad?
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:06 PM   #53
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PORSCHE 997 HEADLAMP from AUS DEALER $800 (cheaper than a BMW E46!)
considering the 2011 maps disk is a $600 item, i doubt a new headlight housing will be $800, or do u mean the globe
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:30 PM   #54
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I say buy the QP and experience it. You seem to turn over cars quick enough to not have to worry to much about long term reliability. Then you can say you have owned one of the most opulent and appointed cars on the road.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:31 PM   #55
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considering the 2011 maps disk is a $600 item, i doubt a new headlight housing will be $800, or do u mean the globe
I think he means a genuine replica headlight for the 1:18 scale model 997.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:41 AM   #56
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I think he means a genuine replica headlight for the 1:18 scale model 997.
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Old 11-16-2011, 02:11 AM   #57
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lol.

I dont think i would get the QP , it would be a spyder.

You are right about me changing cars far too often ... But even with that, I dont think it will end up being a smart move, but I will have to take one for a test and see what I think, If I love it ... who knows .
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:19 AM   #58
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:21 AM   #59
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Ok,

so, I am close to getting an M again, but I was considering a F360 for a while but decided I dont want to lay that capital on it yet, will prb get a 430 when they drop a bit more.

In the meantime I did notice that Mazza's have dropped a chunk and from most investigations I have done, they seem far more reliable than the equivalant 360 or 355 ( not as nice as well, but alot less $$).

My question, Am I crazy to want one ? They will cost the same or slightly more than the M, will have done less kms, but will obviously cost alot more ot keep on the road. Given I already have the X5 and another car for the Mrs, I could almost use the Mazza as a nearly daily (cant imagine not wanting to drive it ..) so could prob limit the ks to 15000 per annum ...

Anyone know anything about them ... ?

ON another note, all you Melb boys (n girls?) that have seem Domino's M, what where your thoughts ? would love a bit of background ...
Mate you changing your cars again? Or you just adding to the fleet ?
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:36 AM   #60
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Haha , I am sure you can afford to own it as well Bobz,

But lets be honest, we have much better things to be spending the money on ..


Its all about balancing the costs of ownership against the enjoyment one gets.

If i can spend $8k on the mazza per annum whilst doing 15k kms , I reckon for the car i am getting, it would be worth it.

My wife, well she might not agree ...

So then its back to factoring in enjoyment ...

I have a mate who owns a mazza 3200 GT 2003 or 2002 cant remember which but he bought it 5 years ago and it had done 20,000 klms and it the first year it cost hime the best part of 20k. hea had to replace the air con compressor twice at $4,400 each time plus some issue with his diff plus some other issue with the electric windows ect ect.

IMO you would be better joining a car club or just renting a massa on the weekends that you want to use one. you would save a fortune
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