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Old 12-06-2011, 12:52 AM   #81
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whoaaaa dude good luck with this, can't wait to see the final product
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:00 AM   #82
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:04 AM   #83
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Wow, that is some incredibly impressive stuff! I am going to have to take some time off work and come to one of your Friday Night Meets to see this beast when it is completed. Best of luck with the project!
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:56 AM   #84
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you moved just for the swap?!
i'm extremely jealous of this project, but more of your knowledge and skills. how did you learn to do work like this? any schooling?
my goal one day is to do a ls swap into an rx7.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:18 AM   #85
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im doing a sedan swap on my 328i right now, keep in contact with me so we can bounce questions back and forth....

Are you going to wire in the EKP relay so all that m3 fuel system is worth swaping? also what about the, Heater valve wiring?

Awesome job so far, your at about the same stage as me so it will be interesting to see what route you take, however mine didnt have the m3 rear when i started.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:32 AM   #86
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it took him over 2 years to get this far, so my guess would be another 2 years.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:54 PM   #88
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good luck man, hopefully no major snags yet, hope i can see it soon
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:32 PM   #89
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Thank you all for your kind comments and words of encouragement! I'm sorry I can't respond individually, but I did read all of them.

I will, however, address some of the specific questions people had:


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Any easier if you are swapping into a car that is already a manual?
A little bit, yes. You don't have to deal with the pedals too much (just need to change clutch master cyl, I think), nor do you need to run that hydraulic pipe under the carpet. A tiny bit of the wiring will also be done already, but you won't be able to reuse some of the steptronic shifter wires that are already in the harness, which are going to come in very handy.

If you have a 6MT 330, you can even run the non-M drive shaft and rear end until it breaks.

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Awesome job. Dumb question, but why didn't you just keep the engine in the white M3?
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Let me get this straight, you took two working cars and made one working car?

Is that accurate?
Nope, not accurate. The white M3 is still whole and serving beater duty. Nothing was removed.

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nice. question, are you going to keep the stock cluster or use the one from the donor M3?
I'm using a matched DME, EWS, LCM, and IKE set from an M3. The IKE will be wired up to make the oil temp gauge work.

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Looks great Kalim!! Really looking forward to the future progress.
Thanks, Mike! Looking forward to getting those last few parts.

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"Beater" M3 had a blown engine and poorly repaired after an accident(s). Good engine went in there to act as a "test" bed, but in the time between that and the creation of this thread, Kalim has managed to hoard more S54s so I lost track of which engine is actually going where.
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hold on... let's see if I can get this right. The first motor that came from an e30 swap project was sold. The second motor was going to go into the sedan, but now he's keeping it in the m3 with a messed up chassis I think the third motor is the one going in the sedan and the fourth s54 was sold. I think that's it, although I might have mixed up the last two
Haha, I have been through a few S54s so let me see if I can clear this up.
S54 #1 was bought along with all the swap parts
S54 #2 was bought as a no frills long block (newer)
S54 #1 was sold
S54 #3 was removed from the white M3 (blown motor)
S54 #2 was put into the white M3 (beater status)
S54 #4 was bought (newer still)
S54 #3 was torn down
S54 #4 is going into the sedan

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So close yet so far! I still need to give you the pics I have of you guys pulling the motor out.
Yes, please! Send me pics and I'll update the thread.

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anyhow, to the OP. great work. can't wait to see the end result.

where did you get the custom drive shaft?
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how much is the labor on getting the drive shaft shorten and balanced?

btw..is there any other other solution other than getting it shorten (ie. Z4M)?
Thanks! I don't have the name of the shop that cut and balanced it, but it was a place on the east coast that my shop subcontracted when I had the rear end installed. (Decided this was something I'd rather guide the shop guys through rather than do on my back in a carport in winter, haha). I do remember that it took a while to find a shop with the capability to work on BMW shafts, though. I gave them an M3 drive shaft to work with so they took a little off the front section and welded it back together. The cost was $300+OEM M3 shaft, including shipping both ways.

Believe me, we tried quite a few different ideas and this was a big reason why the rear end swap took 5 weeks instead of 1. I wasn't sure if the Z4M center support bearing mounted up to the chassis in the same spot, so I have no info on that. The parts diagrams list overall length instead of sectional length, so you have to do some math to figure out front vs. rear section length. E.g. for E46s, you can take non-M auto, non-M 6MT, and M3 6MT and work down the line to figure out how much shorter the shaft gets on either end as you add the longer trans and the longer diff. Then, you have to make sure the input and output flanges match.

In any case, mine will be up for sale once the swap is done!

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aw **** i didn't make first page... and.. all i have to say is i see my jack in this pic, without my jack none of this would be possible
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but good work bro, can't wait to see the end result, any estimate on date of completion?
JT Jr. is an invaluable member of my garage staff.

Should be about two more weekends to get the car started, I think.

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you moved just for the swap?!
i'm extremely jealous of this project, but more of your knowledge and skills. how did you learn to do work like this? any schooling?
my goal one day is to do a ls swap into an rx7.
Well, I wouldn't say just for the swap, but being able to work on cars in the garage was a huge factor, haha.
I'm self-taught in automotive work as a hobby. A degree in Electrical & Computer Engineering also comes in handy from time to time.

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im doing a sedan swap on my 328i right now, keep in contact with me so we can bounce questions back and forth....

Are you going to wire in the EKP relay so all that m3 fuel system is worth swaping? also what about the, Heater valve wiring?

Awesome job so far, your at about the same stage as me so it will be interesting to see what route you take, however mine didnt have the m3 rear when i started.
Awesome. Good luck on your project, dude!

I'm going from MS45 to MSS54, so my wiring is just slightly easier.
Yes, I'm doing the EKP relay retrofit. It's kinda interesting that non-US models have the same relay setup as my non-M, though.
Keeping the heater valve wiring the same, but I'm planning on adding the auxiliary heater pump to IHKA wiring.



I'm in the middle of making a wiring plan, which I should be implementing over the next couple of nights. Stay tuned!
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Old 12-06-2011, 04:35 PM   #90
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Oh come on, Kalim, you can afford to a little bit before you hit 100k. This car is close to being done.
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Old 12-06-2011, 04:40 PM   #91
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Haha, I have been through a few S54s so let me see if I can clear this up.
S54 #1 was bought along with all the swap parts
S54 #2 was bought as a no frills long block (newer)
S54 #1 was sold
S54 #3 was removed from the white M3 (blown motor)
S54 #2 was put into the white M3 (beater status) and will be swapped into another beater car (possibly albeee's) once sedan swap is finished
S54 #4 was bought (newer still)
S54 #3 was torn down
S54 #4 is going into the sedan
Mwa ha ha.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:14 PM   #92
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Mwa ha ha.
a fit with an s54? ...sure

lets just build a trailer and throw it on my bicycle... it will do just about as much good
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:57 AM   #94
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Awesome. Good luck on your project, dude!

I'm going from MS45 to MSS54, so my wiring is just slightly easier.
Yes, I'm doing the EKP relay retrofit. It's kinda interesting that non-US models have the same relay setup as my non-M, though.
Keeping the heater valve wiring the same, but I'm planning on adding the auxiliary heater pump to IHKA wiring.



I'm in the middle of making a wiring plan, which I should be implementing over the next couple of nights. Stay tuned!
the reason i asked about the heater control valve is becasue the one from my m3 has two seperate connections a total of 4 wires going to it, the 328i version has one conection with 2 wires going to it. Interested in knowing some more info on your plan... ill stay tuned.
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did someone say bodywork?
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now i'm waiting for kalim to make M3 fenders and quad exhaust too
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Awesome project, can't wait for more updates.

I'm working up to doing a wagon for myself
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Mwa ha ha.
I don't it'll fit in the Fit.

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the reason i asked about the heater control valve is becasue the one from my m3 has two seperate connections a total of 4 wires going to it, the 328i version has one conection with 2 wires going to it. Interested in knowing some more info on your plan... ill stay tuned.
Correct, but it's not just a valve; there are two separate units mounted in the same bracket. The valve part is exactly the same as the non-M version, but for the other unit (auxiliary water pump), you need another 2-pin connector. WDS has the wiring you need. You need to run one wire to IHKA and the other to ground, IIRC.

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now i'm waiting for kalim to make M3 fenders and quad exhaust too
I don't know, maybe, haha. Still tossing around a couple of ideas.

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Yo, Marvin! Come by later today (Sunday) if you're not busy.

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Awesome project, can't wait for more updates.

I'm working up to doing a wagon for myself
Thanks, Ian.

I've been thinking the same thing.
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