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Talk about driveline improvements, NA tuning and DME tuning your E46 BMW here. This includes diffs, intakes, exhausts, chips, software and OBD tuning.

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Old 02-01-2012, 09:07 PM   #41
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most likely i will wait til april for the new headers from anthony
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:21 AM   #42
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Anybody put heatshield near the headers ? Will be installing bimmer brakes soon!
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:42 AM   #43
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:51 AM   #44
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o2 sensor fitment, flanges not being aligned, also the fact that they seem very flimsy, sloppy welds, only the outside of the pipes are welded. Compared to bimmerbrakes, they are trash.


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The bimmer brakes weren't welded on the inside, they used a dremel/grinding tool to try and fix it. Something anyone could do in a few minutes. I can't say I've had any of the issues you are presenting. I'd be happy to take some pictures of my ebays that have none of the issues you are stating. Only need 2 bungs to work out the 4. No point in using the rear 02's. As you will have a check engine light with/without them installed. When I did this mod, I made money! I still had to remove the heat shield on the passenger side motor mount with bimmer brakes headers. How long ago did you buy your ebay headers? Maybe since I've bought mine they have gone down in quality? EDIT: Further more the thread that held the pictures of the flanges of BB headers. Has been edited so we can't even see those pictures. B/C of the huge amount of flaming that was present. If you continue to read that thread, he will get more and more honest as it goes. Then went on to sell them. http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...+review&page=2 enjoy! Post #13 Edited. I also want to add, within days the gaskets that came with the BB headers. Failed between the mid section/headers. It was replaced with OEM. Now the gaskets that go between the headers and the block have failed. This isn't an easy in and out. These headers were installed on a 330xi. (no room) This is not a jab. stab, personal attack on anyone. I did the install for a friend, he already had to drop the exhaust. Now it all has to be redone. Painful experience on my end.

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Old 02-02-2012, 08:31 AM   #45
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Most every e46 header install is painfull even in the best situation. Any minor issue with the headers can cause interfereance or possibly a leak requiring removal and reinstallation. It is certainly not a pleasent job for a novice mechanic. But if you prepare with the right tools,new studs if needed and oem gaskets you have the odds in your favor. Maybe that is why super sprint and active's headers demand such a high price. Possibly for the confidence of fitment the first time every time. But when its my money I am willing to take the chance to save $1000 on this part anyday.

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The bimmer brakes weren't welded on the inside, they used a dremel/grinding tool to try and fix it. Something anyone could do in a few minutes. I can't say I've had any of the issues you are presenting. I'd be happy to take some pictures of my ebays that have none of the issues you are stating. Only need 2 bungs to work out the 4. No point in using the rear 02's. As you will have a check engine light with/without them installed. When I did this mod, I made money! I still had to remove the heat shield on the passenger side motor mount with bimmer brakes headers. How long ago did you buy your ebay headers? Maybe since I've bought mine they have gone down in quality? EDIT: Further more the thread that held the pictures of the flanges of BB headers. Has been edited so we can't even see those pictures. B/C of the huge amount of flaming that was present. If you continue to read that thread, he will get more and more honest as it goes. Then went on to sell them. http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...+review&page=2 enjoy! Post #13 Edited. I also want to add, within days the gaskets that came with the BB headers. Failed between the mid section/headers. It was replaced with OEM. Now the gaskets that go between the headers and the block have failed. This isn't an easy in and out. These headers were installed on a 330xi. (no room) This is not a jab. stab, personal attack on anyone. I did the install for a friend, he already had to drop the exhaust. Now it all has to be redone. Painful experience on my end.
Actually the inside of the pipes were welded, atleast on the top part. And just like any headers you get, you should use oem gaskets everyone knows that. If you didn't listen to almost everyone on the forum lol, sorry man that was you mistake.

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Actually the inside of the pipes were welded, atleast on the top part. And just like any headers you get, you should use oem gaskets everyone knows that. If you didn't listen to almost everyone on the forum lol, sorry man that was you mistake.

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This wasn't my car or my money. I would have went with oem and ebays just like I did on my car I can assure you I begged this man to use oem gaskets. It was his choice on the gaskets. Perhaps they shouldn't include them with the headers. Think if someone paid for an install 500 bucks, gaskets blow out, throw another 550 to get it fixed. Then add BB starting price. Super Sprints? Any pictures of the said welds?

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I've seen 3 pairs of ebay headers from varying years, I got mine maybe 4-5 years ago, which is the oldest set I have seen.

I have no doubt that some people will actually get some headers from eBay that fit good, but still the mis aligned collector flange is usually always there. Also the chance of them getting headers that fit is very slim.
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I've seen 3 pairs of ebay headers from varying years, I got mine maybe 4-5 years ago, which is the oldest set I have seen.

I have no doubt that some people will actually get some headers from eBay that fit good, but still the mis aligned collector flange is usually always there. Also the chance of them getting headers that fit is very slim.
Agreed, but still cheaper to get ebays put em on. Have them modified.
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This wasn't my car or my money. I would have went with oem and ebays just like I did on my car I can assure you I begged this man to use oem gaskets. It was his choice on the gaskets. Perhaps they shouldn't include them with the headers. Think if someone paid for an install 500 bucks, gaskets blow out, throw another 550 to get it fixed. Then add BB starting price. Super Sprints? Any pictures of the said welds?
Yea, man but come on. If your installing the headers on someone's car, and you charge them to do it, cause its definitely not a fun or easy job. You have to get the oem gaskets, no questions asked. If that person didn't want to get the oem gaskets, I wouldn't install them SERIOUSLY. I mean you can get all the gasket for less 80 shipped from ecs, that's a lot cheaper than having to pay 500 to install new gaskets.

I installed j_blocks bb headers, and I told him to get oem gaskets, had to wait a little longer than a week to reschedule the install. But atleast this way, he should get a trouble free enjoyable experience from his bb headers.

And no I didn't take any pics of the upper header flange on the BB headers. But I assure you, they are welded and grinded down, for a smooth flow.


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Yea, man but come on. If your installing the headers on someone's car, and you charge them to do it, cause its definitely not a fun or easy job. I charged 1 foot long sub, from subway.You have to get the oem gaskets, no questions asked. If that person didn't want to get the oem gaskets, I wouldn't install them SERIOUSLY. I 100% agree, you still can't force someone to do something they don't want to do.I mean you can get all the gasket for less 80 shipped from ecs, that's a lot cheaper than having to pay 500 to install new gaskets. 100% agree

I installed j_blocks bb headers, and I told him to get oem gaskets, had to wait a little longer than a week to reschedule the install. But atleast this way, he should get a trouble free enjoyable experience from his bb headers.

And no I didn't take any pics of the upper header flange on the BB headers. But I assure you, they are welded and grinded down, for a smooth flow. I wonder if anyone has some laying around? Pictures? What I saw, was a surface that was ground down. If there were any welds they were almost 100% ground off. I saw several gaps along the header to head flange.


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Wish the previous pictures weren't taken down Point being on the gaskets if they are worthless why include them?

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Wish the previous pictures weren't taken down Point being on the gaskets if they are worthless why include them?
I wonder if the more expensive headers like, Technik or super sprint came with their own gaskets, or oem gaskets.

ANYONE HAVE ANY BB HEADERS AT HOME POST UP SOME PICS. ALSO SOME EBAY HEADERS!

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BimmerBrakes headers fit perfectly to my knowledge. Mine got a little distorted when being coated at Jet-Hot due to the insanely high temperatures they cook them at, but it ended up not being a problem. I just needed to add a small piece of curved pipe (VERY gentle bend as to not interrupt airflow). All worked out nicely, I gained some power (definitely can feel it), and it has a nice sound at higher RPM's.

Plus, if you ask politely, I can get you 5% off.

EDIT: You WILL want to buy OEM header gaskets. The heat shield was cut off mine, though, just for space reasons. I also invested in new stud bolts and nuts as a "just in case" precaution. LocTite was liberally applied to said stud bolts and nuts to ensure there were no leaks. After a couple thousand miles, I still don't have any leaks.
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I wonder if the more expensive headers like, Technik or super sprint came with their own gaskets, or oem gaskets.

ANYONE HAVE ANY BB HEADERS AT HOME POST UP SOME PICS. ALSO SOME EBAY HEADERS!

ANTHONY IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME PICS OF THE UPPER HEADER FLANGE.







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To answer your question. Super Sprint does not supply gaskets with their headers. They are designed to use OEM gaskets. They supply you with no gaskets. You need to acquire the oems on your own.

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To answer your question. Super Sprint does not supply gaskets with their headers. They are designed to use OEM gaskets. They supply you with no gaskets. You need to acquire the oems on your own.
Well there you go. OEM gaskets only!

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Well there you go. OEM gaskets only!

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Using that logic, would you assume these headers were designed to be used with the supplied gaskets?
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BimmerBrakes headers fit perfectly to my knowledge. Mine got a little distorted when being coated at Jet-Hot due to the insanely high temperatures they cook them at, but it ended up not being a problem. I just needed to add a small piece of curved pipe (VERY gentle bend as to not interrupt airflow). All worked out nicely, I gained some power (definitely can feel it), and it has a nice sound at higher RPM's.

Plus, if you ask politely, I can get you 5% off.

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Yea, what is it 800-900 degrees.

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Yea, what is it 800-900 degrees.

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I think it's closer to 1,000F.

And I just got pictures of BimmerBrakes' newest header prototype. It's an individual tube you assemble for each port that collects into a single or double exhaust outlet. You choose which one you want to use.

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